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being blunt I'll tell you since you posed such a question: I've taken 7 at once to get the small 'buzz' BUT even that wasn't enough which is what led me to increase up to 11.
That was back during August 2007. I woke up on a breathing tube in intensive care because my son found me 'dead' on the bathroom floor.
I had a cardiac arrest on it and very nearly killed myself unintentionally.
Ultram is like poison and has twitching side effects. It most definitely has history of seizures, and all kinds of neuro stuff.
I had a history, too, of extreme duragesic patch use, up to 10 patches on at once of the 75's and NEVER even came close to passing out let alone dropping dead accidentally. Same with hydro, I'd take 15 at once. Again, no issues with 'losing it' or anything like that. The reason I share all this is because it really is important to BE CAREFUL with ultram period.
It reacted on my like no other drug ever reacted on me and actually blew my cover, exposed me and forced me into getting help. So I guess for that I should be glad.
By the way, if anyone's interested, I got off EVERYTHING at a wonderful rehab combined with suboxone use which I remain on to this day. It literally has given me my life back.
/soapbox
before anyone asks why the hell I'm on this site well you're absolutely right so away I go! lol
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