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    Default Generic4All & Pharm4all Feedbacks

    I recently ordered generic Cialis (Tadalafil) from Generic4All. I choose this company because of the high rating on Pharmacyreviewer.

    My order was recieved after 3 weeks - yellow oval pills in 10 pcs. blister-packs - apparantly from Aurochem. The pills have the mark "E20" engraved on them.

    I have been using original/brand Cialis for 3 years, and it has never ever let me down. It has always worked - every single time I have used it. 15 mins. after taking a brand-Cialis I would start to feel the mild side-effects (flushing etc.), and after 30 mins. the effect would kick-in.

    However, when I used the pills from Generic4All, nothing happened. Absolutely nothing. No side-effects, and no effect at all. I have tried for 3 nights in a row, and the same result every time - nothing at all. I did a search on the internet, and it seems that others have had the same experience with Tadalafil from Aurochem - with some users reporting no effect at all, while others find the effect very unreliable, with every other pill not working at all...

    I must say, that I am a bit dissappointed to recieve pills of seemingly such low quality - especially as I choose a company with such high ratings. And just to test, I have today used a brand-Cialis, and the effect of this kicked in right away as it always have.

    So my conclusion must be, that the pills I recieved are simply not working.

    Any other experinces like this?

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    Hey pizzaman, sorry to hear about your experience with those Aurochem pills from generic4all. Did you contact generic4all and ask for a refund or replacement from a different manufacturer? A few of us have reported a similar problem with tadalafil pills that were made by HAB Pharmaceuticals, bought from 4rx.com (see our several reviews posted on pharmacyreviewer.com, for 4rx). In my case, they replaced the bad order with pills made by Cipla ("Tadacip") and they worked the same as the brand Cialis I got locally with my prescription.

    Good luck in trying to get a refund/replacement from generic4all.com. Let us know how it works out; I've been buying from their sister company, pharm4all.com, and would like to know how they treat customers when there is a problem.

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    I was one of the ones who got the HAB Pharma generic Cialis and it didn't do a darn thing for me. Still waiting for a replacement - but probably not going to get here in time for New Year's Eve (bummer, for obvious reasons).

    What scares me about some of these 'generics' from India is not so much the potency of the drugs, but what's really in them... I took that HAB stuff for a few days and it didn't do a darn thing for me other than give me a horrible headache and make me wake up with a backache that was from hell. What that tells me in my (probably) naive knowledge of pharmaceuticals is that they're not 'cooking' the stuff up right. When you get all the bad side effects of a drug, and none of the good effects, I'm a bit leery.

    Since I'm at that age where I would be even considering something like Cialis, you can gather that I was around when we were all experimenting with all kinds of other home-grown chemical compounds My experiences with poorly cooked drugs in the past leads me to the conclusion that these so-called pharma companies in India are cooking up some bad, poor quality, stuff.

    The cost of these drugs might seem small to us compared to what Cialis or others cost in US pharmacies, but think about what a goldmine that must be for any Indian pharma company that decides to squish up a bunch of sacred cow crap and package it as Tadalafil. There's just a huge incentive for them to package up crap, make a few bazillion rupees, run for cover, and then retire like slum-dog millionaires. We spend a hundred bucks, get a bad batch, and figure it's no big deal because it was just an experiment. It just takes a few of us to make a viable business model for them...

    Just my thoughts. Maybe others have had better experiences.
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    Default Generic4all is fixing the problem

    I had the same thing with generic Viagra, no effect. I thought I had been ripped off my Generic4all but the service dept stayed in touch, sent me a "variety pack" of pills from different manufacturers. First one I tried worked great. Now they are going to send replacements.
    Lots of counterfeits in the foreign market. At least Generic4all fixes the problem when it occurs.

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    This particular tadalafil from Aurochem supposed to have 20mg of the drug. And you're right to compare it to the effects of the genuine Cialis pill. I guess, that's the risk of getting these so-called generic medicines. However, it the pharmacy is a reputable one, they might consider giving a replacement or a refund rather than putting their reputation on the line. Fly-by-night online pharmacies would not do this since they can just shut the website down and open up another one. Good luck.
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    The tadalafil sent to me by Generic4all is branded Tadaplus (unknown manufacturer) and unfortunately, it has absolutely no effect. I've contacted them and hopefully they'll send a replacement.

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    Default Generic4all feedbacks

    I ordered this item:
    Tadalafil - Buy cheap Tadalafil Online

    this is what i received.

    picture 1 (the envelope):
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    picture 2 (the blister):
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    picture 3 (another picture of the blister):
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    picture 4 (the pills in the blister):
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    In the envelope there where just the pills blisters, no package as shown on the web site.
    I received the order in about 14 days (including saturdays and sundays).
    The generic4all customer service is great (they answer promptly to any question).
    I tried the pills and the effect is as expected.
    is a great shop ;-)
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    Thanks for this post. At least people would know that generic4all does send packages.

    However, I noticed that the site claims to sell tadalafil with "Cipla, Aurochem Laboratories" as the manufacturer. However, I'm only familiar with Tadacip as the only brand of tadalafil carried by Cipla. I don't see any word indicating the word Cipla in the blister pack. Anyway, if it works for you, then it doesn't really matter whether it's Cipla or not.

    I checked the internet on where could your tadalafil tablets came from (based on the appearance and the word inscribed on each tablet) and the only result says it's a generic tadalafil from India.
    Last edited by tinmuning; 06-12-2010 at 07:34 PM. Reason: erratum, Tadacip is manufactured by Cipla, while Apcalis is by Ajanta Pharma

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinmuning View Post
    However, I noticed that the site claims to sell tadalafil with "Cipla, Aurochem Laboratories" as the manufacturer. However, I'm only familiar with Tadacip as the only brand of tadalafil carried by Cipla. I don't see any word indicating the word Cipla in the blister pack.
    so Apcalis, Tadacip and Aurochem Laboratories are all Cipla brands ??
    Last edited by tinmuning; 06-12-2010 at 07:33 PM. Reason: erratum, see previous post

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    ^Even before I edited my post (since previously I included Apcalis as a brand manufactured by Cipla, which is not), I didn't mention anything about "Aurochem Laboratories" as a brand. I even mentioned that it is one of the manufacturers indicated in the site you gave.

    To be clear, as far as I know, Tadacip is the only brand of tadalafil that Cipla has.

    It's great that the online pharmacy you used was able to send your order (which can appease other possible customers who are wary of ordering from them thinking they might be a scam). However, there are other customers who are particular with a certain generic tadalafil type like the ones manufactured by Cipla. But for those who aren't particular with whatever brand they get as long as the pharmacy sends their order, then it's just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinmuning View Post
    ^Even before I edited my post (since previously I included Apcalis as a brand manufactured by Cipla, which is not), I didn't mention anything about "Aurochem Laboratories" as a brand. I even mentioned that it is one of the manufacturers indicated in the site you gave.
    To be clear, as far as I know, Tadacip is the only brand of tadalafil that Cipla has.
    ok so the different brand of generic Cialis (tadalafil) are: Cipla (with is brand Tadacip); Aurochem Laboratories; Apcalis...

    by the way if you read on the website they say: "Manufacturer: Cipla, Aurochem Laboratories, Generic" ....that means that they sell tadalafil(generic Cialis) from 3 manufacturer that are "Cipla", "Aurochem Laboratories" and "Generic"....
    and as you said before "the only result says it's a generic tadalafil from India."...so what they send me must be the "generic" one. Not Cipla and not Arochem Laboratories...maybe.

    Quote Originally Posted by tinmuning View Post
    It's great that the online pharmacy you used was able to send your order (which can appease other possible customers who are wary of ordering from them thinking they might be a scam).
    yes..is a great shop..and by the way seems to be the best one from the Paharmacy Reviews on this web site.

    Quote Originally Posted by tinmuning View Post
    However, there are other customers who are particular with a certain generic tadalafil type like the ones manufactured by Cipla.
    "particular" means that on them the Cipla one doesn't have any effect ?
    they are particular just with Cipla or also with other generic tadalafil brands...
    by the way the one they shipped me seems not to be "Cipla".

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    Well there are customers who prefer tadalafil from Cipla over the other "generics" out there. They might be disappointed if they expect to get that and receive tadalafil from other companies instead.

    By the way, I saw a picture which shows the same blister pack that you showed (with the same E20 imprint on the tablets) which says Tadalafil from Aurochem Laboratories.

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    if you look on the envelope that generic4all sent me it says: "euphoria healthcare mansarovar bld mumbai". I google it and i found this:

    Euphoria Health Care Pvt. Ltd. - Home (it says: Euphoria Health Pvt Ltd is having a great immense pleasure to state that Euphoria is the pioneers in the field of manufacturing of pharmaceutical formulations in all forms of TABLETS, SYRUPS, CAPSULES, INJECTIONS, and OINTMENTS & DROPS.)

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    Default Official Clarification from Generic4All

    Dear Πρίαπος and Tinmuning,

    My name is Andy Williams and I am responsible for the customer support and service at Generic4All. We always appreciate an open discussion on public forums as this always helps us to improve our service. Having read the thread above I would like to please take this opportunity to clarify a few things about the medication you received and the different types of generic drugs we can provide to our customers.

    We are a big online pharmacy and we work with many different manufacturers and providers of both generic and branded medication.

    Our Tadalafil tablets originate from Cipla, Aurochem Laboratories or, for a very small part, alternative generic manufacturers. As Πρίαπος already rightly pointed out, the specific brand name for Tadalafil made by Cipla is Tadacip. Aurochem, on the other hand, produces two types of Tadalafil pills. The first type is called Aurogra and is meant for internal trade within India only. The pills Πρίαπος received were also produced by Aurochem but are intended for the international market and are labeled ‘Tadalafil Tablets 20mg’ only.

    The blisters of both types can easily be identified by their code number, which is clearly marked in red letters on each blister. This unique number has been given to each specific manufacturer by the Indian FDA. The code for Aurochem (as seen on the pictures above) is MH/DRUG/KD-19. Other identifying marks appearing on each blister are the embossed letters on the side of the pack, containing the batch number, manufacturing date and expiration date.

    When ordering Tadalafil, 99% of our customers will receive tablets either produced by Cipla or Aurochem Laboratories. Upon request a very small percentage can receive Tadalafil produced by a different company.
    In case a customer would like to receive medication from a specific manufacturer, we invite them to contact us in advance. We would be happy to send products from the company of your preference and this can also include manufacturers which have not been specifically mentioned on the website. We have good relationships with many pharmaceutical companies and we will gladly order products we do not stock on request.

    Please rest assured that we aim to achieve 100% customer satisfaction at all times. Our dedicated customer service department is always available by phone, chat or email for any questions or concerns you may have. We will always try our best to supply customers with products that meet their specific needs.

    Πρίαπος, I would like to thank you very much for your order and your support, and I hope to see you on our website again very soon.

    Kind regards,
    Andy Williams

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    Thanks for the above information, Andy! At least it's clear: customers who want a particular brand should contact the site in advance.

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    If customs seized your package they would inform you, in most countries anyway. Are you in the US?

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    They will definitely send you a replacement. The first time I ordered Tadalafil from Generic4all, I had EXACTLY the same problem. I called them up and they told me that if I wanted a specific brand or type of medication, I just had to ask for it. So now, whenever I place another order, I call them up and ask specifically for Tadalafil from Cipla. In my experience, Cipla have the best generics out there. I was pretty impressed with Generic4All actually, I like it when companies value their customer service.

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    I never try that sh*t , but i know a good ******** pharm they only handle branded ..viagra and cialis ..but it takes few weeks to get the product , you know that custom don´t care if you getting this product because now that viagra and cialis is count like a non control meds ...

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    Default Generic4All and Synergi - any help?

    I'm Alex and I'm new to the forum.

    I was hoping for some advice. I've been using Super-P Force for the past year or so as a treatment for erectile dysfunction combined with premature ejaculation. It helped a lot but the one thing I wasn't too happy with is the different reaction times. Both components didn't always peak at the same time and that made the sex not as good as I think it could have been.

    So now I've been reading about this new(-ish) medication, which is basically like Super-P Force but with the Sildenafil and Dapoxetine in two separate pills. It's called Synergi Combi-Kit (hope I'm spelling this right!). I'm sure this would work better for me, but not a lot of places seem to have it yet online. I found one website called Generic4All, where they do stock it, but I've never ordered from them yet. So can anyone share any experiences they've had with them? Like, how was the service, delivery time, aftercare, etc. Any experiences with the product would also be welcome.

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    Default Please, Please, Please Avoid generic4all.com (RIPOFF)

    Please avoid this site. They are a total ripoff. They're products are an absolute fake! I ordered their 'brand Cialis', and that crap had absolutely no affect at all. They try to keep your concern by offering to send replacement product or to resend you the item again. But that is also a fake. Then, like some many other ripoff sites, they try to argue with you that their product is authentic. I told them I have been taking brand cialis prescribed by my doctor for 2 years with great, positive results. But when I take the brand cialis from generic4all, it has no affect. Still they claim their product is for real.

    EVERYONE, PLEASE DONOT WASTE YOUR MONEY WITH GENERIC4ALL.COM. THEY ARE A COMPLETE FRAUD. THEIR PRODUCTS ARE A COMPLET FAKE!
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