Tired of fighting with doctors

[davix]

Hello to all. I live in OH and am wondering if anyone has the problem that I have encountered. I take one measly 2mg ativan at night to sleep. I have had insomnia for over 20 years. Its hard for my area to keep doctors. So now I have been seeing an NP at a large non profit place. She cut my dose to 1mg. I am doing ok on it but wow! Due to taking it for so long I went into withdrawal. She prescribed Doxepin and that really helped a lot but I felt like a zombie while taking it.

So tomorrow she is going to try to take me down to .5mg and I know that is not going to work. Been there and done that. I have been soooooooo nervous about this. I take other meds that have so many dangers of side effects but the medical community does not seem to care. Where I live is one of the worst heroin addicted areas in the country. Lisa Ling even did a documentary about it. LOL!

Its this type of treatment that has driven me to have to find other sources. If I don't sleep, I don't function and have extreme pain. Why do I have to suffer for what others do? I get so sick of it. At the ER after I ran a rusty metal rod straight through my foot, they gave me tramadol. Unbelievable!

This has been the worst year of my life and this NP knows it. Death of very close dear relative, severe financial issues, I was assaulted.. blah blah blah. I could actually use more anti-anxiety meds..not less. Where is the compassion? Thanks for listening/reading.

[dsteury]

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[UGAgal]

@davix here's your answer you need no shipping cost, it's guaranteed delivery and they are a super vendor. Oh and you don't need a script or need to see a doctor either. Go here my brother you pain will disappear. Service Solution 4 U

Is their ambien good or has anyone tried it?

[dsteury]

UGAgal it clonipin is best the infamous (banakins) and the Ambiens are not a rip off. Dudes good people only bad thing is sometimes customers get a little slow.

[Roswell1947]

On the left coast, most things from that area are a hotspot.
I got 2 LL's from that region so I stick with EU.
East coast,Mid west and other countries should be no problem.
Maybe things have changed?

[Kelly15120]

UGAgal it clonipin is best the infamous (banakins) and the Ambiens are not a rip off. Dudes good people only bad thing is sometimes customers get a little slow.

Agree....its slow but who gives a ****...

On the left coast, most things from that area are a hotspot.
I got 2 LL's from that region so I stick with EU.
East coast,Mid west and other countries should be no problem.
Maybe things have changed?

East coast....PA....never had any problems..."knock on wood"...

[Jeremy Fisher]

@davix, I am sorry your doc does not listen. Have you tried telling him that you simply don't want to go down to .5 mg? Maybe you can keep your 1mg for at least a while more. Sometimes doctors are just big stinkers.

Some tips beyond the helpful ones already given on your thread; use the search feature for the med you need, read the threads that pop up, last couple of pages usually do the trick, and when you are reading someone's posts b4 you believe them you may want to see how long they have been a member and how many little color dots they have. Does not guarantee anything but it's a reputation system based on other members helps and likes ratings of their posts which do NOT have to be about sources, just FYI.

Of course many of our members who post on the reliability of sources and meds (thank you, you know who you are), do not post a lot, so # of posts means little to nothing, I think.

But if you think someone is recommending a good source, you might want to read their other posts to get a feel for who they are.

Best luck to you in your search for a decent nights sleep.

Fire

[davix]

@davix here's your answer you need no shipping cost, it's guaranteed delivery and they are a super vendor. Oh and you don't need a script or need to see a doctor either. Go here my brother you pain will disappear.

Thank you for the nice comment. It brought tears to my eyes. I should be able to see links now since this is my third post. Ive been sitting here counting the minutes (kind of like the count down in space shuttle launches (T minus two hours... and all that stuff) until my appointment because the chit is going to hit the fan and I'm going to be the one throwing it.

Maybe the medical community should take a look at themselves to see how many people they have actually driven to drug abuse.

I even have a list written down so I don't forget to tell her all the harm not only she, but other doctors are doing to people and not just me. I would love to have a movement like the medical marijuana community does. I still can't believe alcohol is legal and pot is not. Of course thats another story.

Thanks so much dsteury

[lucyloo]

Oh, I feel for you. I have a thread in a different area about the NP at my primary doctor's office and how difficult a time she gives me. It really does compund the issues, doesn't it? Now you have anger and frustration to go along with your anxiety.

I understand the need to let her know how this is affecting you, but please make sure you don't cut off your nose to spite your face. Is there any chance she will refuse to write you for any meds at all if you bring this up at your appointment today? If that's the case, I wonder if you need to rethink your timing. Your appointment today could be one where you simply say, "I do understand your thoughts about wanting to taper me down. I don't, however, think that the holiday season with its attendant stresses is really the time to do it, and I wonder if we could revisit this next month." Or, whatever will get you what you need today and leave you free to blast her once you have another source of medication lined up.

Of course, perhaps you already have all of your ducks in a row and you don't need this advice...just trying to help you see all sides of your decision.

[davix]

@Fireplaces. What nice people there are here. I appreciate your help and the tips very much. I have tried to reason with my doctor (np). Today I'm going to ask her why she is doing this. She did it once before and I filed a grievance with the patient liaison at this place and miraculously the next month, they said that long time users can keep their meds. That was about six months ago but here we are again. And I'm also going to ask her if she realizes that actions such as hers are creating drug abusers and seekers and sometimes driving people to suicide. In fact! One of her blunders caused me to get just that way. I guess she forgot. I will be nice about it though. If anyone prays, please pray for me. This year has been so horrible and I sure don't need this battle on top of all the others. Kind regards, Da-Vix

[UGAgal]

UGAgal it clonipin is best the infamous (banakins) and the Ambiens are not a rip off. Dudes good people only bad thing is sometimes customers get a little slow.

Thanks - I may place my first online order today ...lwhat is difference in airmail or registered mail? Does one mean I need to be home to sign?

[Massiveamounts]

Hello to all. I live in OH and am wondering if anyone has the problem that I have encountered. I take one measly 2mg ativan at night to sleep. I have had insomnia for over 20 years. Its hard for my area to keep doctors. So now I have been seeing an NP at a large non profit place. She cut my dose to 1mg. I am doing ok on it but wow! Due to taking it for so long I went into withdrawal. She prescribed Doxepin and that really helped a lot but I felt like a zombie while taking it.

So tomorrow she is going to try to take me down to .5mg and I know that is not going to work. Been there and done that. I have been soooooooo nervous about this. I take other meds that have so many dangers of side effects but the medical community does not seem to care. Where I live is one of the worst heroin addicted areas in the country. Lisa Ling even did a documentary about it. LOL!

Its this type of treatment that has driven me to have to find other sources. If I don't sleep, I don't function and have extreme pain. Why do I have to suffer for what others do? I get so sick of it. At the ER after I ran a rusty metal rod straight through my foot, they gave me tramadol. Unbelievable!

This has been the worst year of my life and this NP knows it. Death of very close dear relative, severe financial issues, I was assaulted.. blah blah blah. I could actually use more anti-anxiety meds..not less. Where is the compassion? Thanks for listening/reading.

So sorry to hear about how rough your year has been, I hope the upcoming year is much better for you! What the hell this doc will not continue giving you one ativan a day, unbelievable. I assume since he's a doctor for the state they pressure him to force other nonnarcotic meds on you and to try other forms of treatment.....common sense should outweigh those restrictions and he should continue giving you such a small amount of a not as often abused med as other similar medications. I hope it all works out for you or as someone else recommended www.servicesolutions4u.com offers ativan 2mg at a pretty good price as do many other providers, ss4u will guarantee you receive your package though so you will not lose your money placing an order with them which is not the case with all providers. Good luck and happy holidays.

[davix]

Oh, I feel for you. I have a thread in a different area about the NP at my primary doctor's office and how difficult a time she gives me. It really does compund the issues, doesn't it? Now you have anger and frustration to go along with your anxiety.

I understand the need to let her know how this is affecting you, but please make sure you don't cut off your nose to spite your face. Is there any chance she will refuse to write you for any meds at all if you bring this up at your appointment today? If that's the case, I wonder if you need to rethink your timing. Your appointment today could be one where you simply say, "I do understand your thoughts about wanting to taper me down. I don't, however, think that the holiday season with its attendant stresses is really the time to do it, and I wonder if we could revisit this next month." Or, whatever will get you what you need today and leave you free to blast her once you have another source of medication lined up.

Of course, perhaps you already have all of your ducks in a row and you don't need this advice...just trying to help you see all sides of your decision.

Hi Lucyloo,
I get what you are saying. I can't figure out if she is just not listening or does not care and is playing CYA. I'm not going to tell her my source (that I do already have) but just tell her that I can get the meds. I also plan to mention that if I have to do that, she will not be able to control my intake anymore. I notice a lady on another thread advising someone to tell their doc that they "WANT" to get their meds from legitimate sources.

I'll just have to judge the climate of things when I get there. Your words of wisdom are very appreciated.

I'll report back later. Thank you.

[UGAgal]

@Fireplaces. What nice people there are here. I appreciate your help and the tips very much. I have tried to reason with my doctor (np). Today I'm going to ask her why she is doing this. She did it once before and I filed a grievance with the patient liaison at this place and miraculously the next month, they said that long time users can keep their meds. That about about six months ago but here we are again. And I'm also going to ask her if she realizes that actions such as hers are creating drug abusers and seekers and sometimes driving people to suicide. In fact! One of her blunders caused me to get just that way. I guess she forgot. I will be nice about though. If anyone prays, please pray for me. This year has been so horrible and I sure don't need this battle on top of all the others. Kind regards, Da-Vix

I am praying for you. I hope she keeps you at least at the 1mg. Please update when you get home....sending you a cyber hug too!

Doctors try to act like god and do not care when a patient has a legit ate medical reason and medications are there for a reason - to treat people!

[Roswell1947]

what is difference in airmail or registered mail? Does one mean I need to be home to sign?

No.
You can pick it up next day EARLY at the post office
at the side window not the regular line before 9:00am
before the trucks roll or the little green card
you get in your mailbox has options on the back where you can
authorize them to leave it at your door.
Look at your tracking.
Starts with R then registered.
L = reg mail.

[dsteury]

@UGAgal registered you have to sign for and your chances of customs flagging you goes up about 50%. Air mail is just plain old mail you open the door and shazamm!!!

[Jeremy Fisher]

Oh, I feel for you. I have a thread in a different area about the NP at my primary doctor's office and how difficult a time she gives me. It really does compund the issues, doesn't it? Now you have anger and frustration to go along with your anxiety.

I understand the need to let her know how this is affecting you, but please make sure you don't cut off your nose to spite your face. Is there any chance she will refuse to write you for any meds at all if you bring this up at your appointment today? If that's the case, I wonder if you need to rethink your timing. Your appointment today could be one where you simply say, "I do understand your thoughts about wanting to taper me down. I don't, however, think that the holiday season with its attendant stresses is really the time to do it, and I wonder if we could revisit this next month." Or, whatever will get you what you need today and leave you free to blast her once you have another source of medication lined up.

Of course, perhaps you already have all of your ducks in a row and you don't need this advice...just trying to help you see all sides of your decision.

Who is this lucyloo? A great addition to the board, that's who! Lucy, excellent advice. (edited to say, hope my rhyme was not too corny!)

So many members want to tell their doctors off, but are afraid of alienating them and so do not. Now there is no reason @davix, you can not calmly telling your doctor your thoughts, as lucy suggests above. But you don't want to get a reputation for being a difficult patient or god forbid a drug seeker who buys off the internet I don't know a single member who has ever admitted that to their doctor and I have read thousands of posts on different boards for over 8 years. But hey, I could be wrong and it could all work out fine. I really hope so for your sake.

Interesting about the 6 month reprieve you rec'd after you complained to patient advocates (or whatever it was called). And yet here you are again. This doc seems determined to cut you back or maybe the medical group rec'd new instructions.

Now being calm, honest and expressing concern is completely aok. Just focus on yourself. An appt w/your doc is no time to start a movement, although I hear ya. Tempting. You should go to painmgt.org or whatever that site is named. @Stevo1 or @QVC1212, you guys know; my brain is still fried from traveling yesterday. That site is all about advocating for patients, nice change. I know for sure the organization covers physical pain, but is insomnia not a form a pain? I vote yes.

Oh and I just noticed @UGAgal posted the appt was today, so my advice it too late. But lucy's was not so that is good, as I did was agree w/her. I hope it all works out w/your doc; let us know. I am most curious about if you referenced illegal acquisition and how that went.

K, so here's another one of my long posts. Blah, blah, that's me. Must be the hip xmas music CD playing in the background. Our friend's so great, we get one CD every year. Love it.

Sincerely,

Fire

[Jeremy Fisher]

@davix, feel like telling us how your drs appt went? If you don't, that's ok too. Also, it's xmas eve day, so no doubt you are busy.

[Stevo1]

@Fireplaces
You mean this place?
American Pain Foundation

[MojaveJoe]

One of these days I'm going to gather a bunch of the posts of persons underprescribed from doctor's due to fear of the DEA (there will be a ton!) and send them to the author of one of those "it's so easy to get pain pills from crazy drug-prescribing physicians a monkey could do it" stories that show up in the media every now and then.