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    Quote Originally Posted by Kittsoan1989 View Post
    @bostonurmyhome - No problem. Glad to hear I could help. If you ever have questions about what a pill is - go to Drugs.com - for pills made in the US at least, the have an EXCELLENT Pill ID feature - simply type in the Pill Imprint, Color and Shape - and it will tell you exactly what your pill is (and even provided some photos). So that's another good option to always consider!
    Thank you and yes that is a great resource, at first I went to WEB MD and used their pill identifier, it's not as good as Drugs.com, your right, they have excellent excellent information...Have a great day!

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    I guess what my doctor prescribed me is oxycodone? 30md, I did split them up, they are very strong lol....so once, again, thank you!
    This is one of the problems that might occur when the drug involved is referred to incorrectly.
    There is no such thing as "Roxycontin." Roxycodone is the correct brand name of certain dosage tablets of IR oxycodone.
    When the "contin" term is added to a medication name, it denotes an ER formulation such as OxyContin or MS-Contin.
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    So does anybody have a preference on brand? The thread is titled Roxicontin but like @alumni said there is no such medication. I know all about splitting pills, thank you. I have received the M30 (Mallincrodt) and A214 (dont recall who makes the A214) in the past and was wondering if anybody preferred one over the other? What I would like to know @alumni is are the regular IR oxycodone also made with a new formula? The last script I got from the pharm were the M30's and they seemed thicker (more filler maybe) and with a shinier coating on them and did seem less effective. I swallow my pills whole anyways but does the abuse proof formula effect potency in any way? Just curious.

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    Pharmaceutical manufacturers haven't gotten around to attempting to make their IR tablets "abuse proof" yet as far as I know.
    Although I guess they could pretty much use the same process that's currently in place to make IR tablets difficult to crush, snort, smoke and shoot.

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    I have nolever heard of anything losing potency when split in half. I know a woman who pulverize their own roxy all the time and mix with applesauce and she always gets the full effect. I do agree that concerta may be effected in some way by splitting or crushing. But as said, never break down any time release meds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayther2 View Post
    So does anybody have a preference on brand? The thread is titled Roxicontin but like @alumni said there is no such medication. I know all about splitting pills, thank you. I have received the M30 (Mallincrodt) and A214 (dont recall who makes the A214) in the past and was wondering if anybody preferred one over the other? What I would like to know @alumni is are the regular IR oxycodone also made with a new formula? The last script I got from the pharm were the M30's and they seemed thicker (more filler maybe) and with a shinier coating on them and did seem less effective. I swallow my pills whole anyways but does the abuse proof formula effect potency in any way? Just curious.
    @jayther2 - There are two kinds of of pills that start with "Roxi' A) Roxicet, which is a generic percocet with APAP like a 5/325 and then Roxicodone, which are the Oxycodone without APAP. I looked this up on Drugs.com cause I was curious myself. Drugs.com is the best. If you have a pill and you don't know what it is..you can search via the pills imprint..and it shows you exactly what it is...photos and all. Hope this helps.

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    Any Instant relief pain medication will be fine no matter how you take it. If you crush it and swallow it or sniff it or bang it. It has been hard for them to find a way to make the instant release pills anti abuse because the extended release ones have all these chemicals in them that makes them really hard to break down. Actually so much that the new oxycontin pills were having complaints from patients passing stools with the whole pill still intact. That is part of why so many patients have been complaining about the new formula. It is no where near as effective as the old formula. I think the bioavailability is like 5-10% so that means if you take a 80mg oxycontin you get like 10mgs of it. They switched to hydromorphone saying it would make up for it but read all over about chronic pain patients and you will read very few posts that say it works the same although the doctors will tell you it will. Soon though they will find a way to make all the instant release pills (dilaudid, percocet, morphine, oxycontin IR) abuse proof. One thing I don't get is how the old formula oxycontins are still going around. Its been what a few years since they released the new pills? How can there still be so many constantly around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alumni View Post
    Pharmaceutical manufacturers haven't gotten around to attempting to make their IR tablets "abuse proof" yet as far as I know.
    Although I guess they could pretty much use the same process that's currently in place to make IR tablets difficult to crush, snort, smoke and shoot.
    They haven't been able to do it to the instant release pills yet because they made the other pills release very slowly regardless if crushed or snorted. The whole point of the the IR is for it to act fast. I think it is going to take them awhile to think up a way to make a instant release pill abuse proof.
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    There seem to be quite a few Urban Legends being created about the new formulation of OxyContin tablets.
    First of all, the bioavailability of oxycodone, whether in IR or ER form (new or old formula), is typically estimated to be in the 60% range with some estimates of up to 87%. I've never seen any pharmaceutical studies indicating anything like 5-10% but I would be interested in seeing the source of your information.
    The rumors about "passing the entire pill intact in the stool" apparently come from a situation that can occur where part of the empty matrix structure of the pill is expelled in feces. Research the term "ghost pill." I'm not sure this even happens any longer with the new formulation but it definitely did with the original tablet.
    Most of the complaints that I've run into about the new OP version involve the variation from the original in the release rate and time to peak plasma levels. From what I've read and been told, the amount of oxycodone that is released over several hours has not changed at all but the absorption rate is somewhat changed. A limited number of patients have complained that the analgesia was not as effective because of this.
    I'll have to say that the majority of the complaints I'm aware of have been from "patients" who are either frustrated with snorting/smoking/shooting success or pissed about the drop in street value of their diverted meds.
    The pain management physicians I've spoken to who have had any complaints have just switched the patient to equivalent doses of ER morphine
    or Opana ER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayther2 View Post
    So does anybody have a preference on brand? The thread is titled Roxicontin but like @alumni said there is no such medication. I know all about splitting pills, thank you. I have received the M30 (Mallincrodt) and A214 (dont recall who makes the A214) in the past and was wondering if anybody preferred one over the other? What I would like to know @alumni is are the regular IR oxycodone also made with a new formula? The last script I got from the pharm were the M30's and they seemed thicker (more filler maybe) and with a shinier coating on them and did seem less effective. I swallow my pills whole anyways but does the abuse proof formula effect potency in any way? Just curious.
    The A214 are not 30mg only the A215 .The A214 are 15 mg .

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    I don't see no difference in splitting the pill... but the m box ones I noticed that there is a misconception of equality. defintely not 50/50... every other brand I had was the same but mbox ones imo suck first of all and they aren't equally distributed through out the pill... I've always split my pills in half but with the m box I noticed a difference in effectivenss... ****in phone sucks at spell check lol...

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    Roxicodone is immediate release oxycodone. Oxycontin is time released oxycodone. Splitting roxicodone will not effect the pill.

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    So a215 is the same as Roxy 30s right, which are "m30" marked... It's cool I will just eat one and make sure.

    Edit- took a quarter of one they're the same nevermind
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