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    Just on the packaging of each strip.
    The strips are very delicate and if they get near water they start to dissolve very quickly.


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    Ive taken the films before and in my opinion they are not as strong as the pills. On the plus side they do kick in faster but I usually have to take more than I normally would. Also they do not taste as gross as the pills.

  3. Just thinking about the government(word comes from latin govern-meaning control-, and -ment-meaning mind-Yes mind-control!) tracking things gives me goosebumps..I think suboxone is great mostly because it lasts a long time and also because it is non-lethal.

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    @shsn and if your a knuckle head with no opiate tolerance you can catch a buzz for little cost. I personally think its stupid and should be used as intended but some people use for that purpose.

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    @Gladheart that shouldnt be a problem then they can just be packaged safely in someway im not gonna think of now because I have no strips or need to illegally sell them but nonetheless good ole' big pharma never changes do they ....I would understand if they barcoded each strip but if its only on the package that has nothing to do with trying to stop diversion of the strips....the diversion "idea" is just being used so they have a reason to re-patent the strips and monopolize the "suboxone" market once again....sigh woah to the world
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    @Gladheart, as far as sublingual administration goes, i prefer the strips. like i said in my longer post here, i found that the pills mostly got washed away by saliva before being absorbed underneath my tongue. the strips kinda stick to your tongue, so in my experience, that problem doesn't really exist with them. i have the sublingual thing down to a science now too. i cut a piece of the strip, with scissors, into whatever sized dose i want to take and then place way to the back of my tongue. i usually do this when i first wake up, and am laying in bed, because not speaking while it's dissolving is key. i'll sit there for like 30-45 minutes, until i am positive it is completely gone, and i don't even taste any of it cause of how far under my tongue i have buried it.

    the one thing i do miss about the pills is being able to snort them. i felt that doing that was just as efficient as properly taking a strip sublingually, with the only difference being that it took 2 minutes instead of 30.

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    oh, i also meant to include in that last post that i have brought strips with me, in carry-on luggage when i've traveled by plane in the past. since i do not have a prescription, i took however many strips i thought i would need during my time away from home out of their packaging, and just wrapped them up in looseleaf paper. i actually never even thought of the barcode thing, the reason i did this was due to a fear of TSA agents opening up my suitcase after scanning it, since the suboxone wrappers are made out of some sort of metallic foil
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    I was prescribed six 10mg vicodin a day for more than 6 years and the VA dropped me to 3 a day and I had a rough 2 weeks plus trying to sleep and bad aches. I almost looked on the street for some scag.
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    @Gladheart are you yourself, a suboxone patient, or is it something you are looking into because of painkiller use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladheart View Post
    ...Doctors are also saying that there has been a big problem with people selling their Suboxone on the street. Each film has a control number that supposedly can be traced back to the original patient if LE gets their hands on the films during a bust. Any thoughts on the new Suboxone films?
    that was interesting to me that you brought that up, 'cause i remember reading something a while back where representatives of the DEA held some sort of conference, in which suboxone licensed doctors were invited to discuss the issue of diverted suboxone being sold on the street. from what i remember reading, one of the the doctors stood up and spoke on how it was ultimately a good thing because it then became more likely that addicts, normally opposed to treatment, would be introduced to it.

    so i guess the DEA (a.k.a. the fourth reich) was concerned about it. to me, the patient-traceable-barcode idea makes sense
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    I understand this is a drug forum, but honestly, the comments I read here which openly talk about getting high and "snorting" medication intended for oral use is quite concerning. It's obvious some people aren't interested in the proper way to use some medication. I wish the mods would have a junkie section as a forum for you guys, but for the rest of us trying to better educate ourselves, please do us a favor and go elsewhere. Thank you for your support.

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    going on a flight here soon and im worried that the suboxone film is going to show up in my carry on. i dont have a prescription therefore im worried that they may see it. I only need 1 or 2 of the strips to last me a whole week. I am almost completely off of the suboxone!! But i HAVE to have it with me throughout this trip. What are your opinions on how this will effect me or if it will?

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    I understand that no opoids can be taken while taking suboxone. I was wondering if suboxone can be taken with adderall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidalia View Post
    I understand that no opoids can be taken while taking suboxone. I was wondering if suboxone can be taken with adderall?
    You shouldn't have any problems taking both because they hit on different receptors. You can take benzos and Soma and wide range of meds while on Suboxone, just no opiods/opiates of any kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith23 View Post
    going on a flight here soon and im worried that the suboxone film is going to show up in my carry on. i dont have a prescription therefore im worried that they may see it. I only need 1 or 2 of the strips to last me a whole week. I am almost completely off of the suboxone!! But i HAVE to have it with me throughout this trip. What are your opinions on how this will effect me or if it will?
    @smith23 - There is no way an airport security agent is going to know what a suboxone strip is. Put it in a package of gum or wiht your vitamins, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidalia View Post
    I understand that no opoids can be taken while taking suboxone. I was wondering if suboxone can be taken with adderall?
    @Vidalia: I read about suboxone, and I don't believe anything will happen to you other than it will waste the opiate, as suboxone blocks the Euphoria. If you Google Suboxone there is a wealth of information.
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    I dont think it should be any problem, last year I traveled with like 20 methadose 60mg disketts and nobody said a word or even noticed them. I was traveling international as well and nobody cared about that or my xanax prescription. I think traveling with meds whether you have a script or not is a lot less dangerous than people think.
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    Other opioids can be taken with buprenorphine as long as it is kept within the usual analgesic dose range (in analgesic doses it acts like a full mu agonist). I'm prescribed buprenorphine for chronic pain and have been given other opioids (morphine, tramadol, oxycodone) at the same time, as it results in an additive analgesic effect.

    If you already are dependent on high doses of a mu agonist, however, there can be problems.
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    So i guess my next question is... where should i put it? I am very undecided on weather to put it in my purse/wallet, or should i just throw it in my bag that i check in that goes under the plane? Im really not sure, because there is so many different thoughts in my mind. I know im probably sweating this way to much, but i am just being cautious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwc774 View Post
    I understand this is a drug forum, but honestly, the comments I read here which openly talk about getting high and "snorting" medication intended for oral use is quite concerning. It's obvious some people aren't interested in the proper way to use some medication. I wish the mods would have a junkie section as a forum for you guys, but for the rest of us trying to better educate ourselves, please do us a favor and go elsewhere. Thank you for your support.
    Little do you know that this medication has saved my life.
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    @smith23, you should always keep all medications with you, even tylenol. Luggage handlers will go through bags and you could find yourself at the other end of the trip without your meds if you check them. I get a big ziplock bag and throw everything in there - it confuses them . I put tylenol, zantac, cough meds, prescription meds and if I ordered something from an IOP I put it in there too. They won't pay any attention to it. They may pick up the bag and turn it around and look at it, then put it back. I've flown many times with meds I didn't have a script for (before I had a pain specialist) and never once did they pay any attention to them. They took 6 lighters out of my purse while giving me a dirty look but ignored the meds!

    I always tell members who have pills they want to take with them to go to the drug store, buy a bottle of vitamins, dump them out and put the pills in there.

    But never check them in the belly of the plane because too much can happen. I've had lost luggage, luggage that had a broken zipper and everything fell out, luggage that has been inspected (many many many times; they leave a note). I wouldn't feel safe with my meds anywhere but on me.

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    @smith23
    I agree with Lynx4 and you should put the Suboxone film in your purse or inside your coat or pants pocket. You should have no problem getting through airport security. Even if the TSA agent was to look at the Suboxone film package they would most likely have no idea what it is. You have to remember the TSA is looking for things that could be a threat to the plane not a new form of packaged medication. If you had 100 films in your pocket that may raise some interest from the agents.

    If possible if you have enough films I would also put 2 or 3 in your checked bag. This would be a backup if that 1 in 1000 chance happened and a TSA agent confiscated your 2 or 3 films on your person. They would most likely just throw them out and send you on your way. I have traveled recently with 5-10 benzos in my pocket and 1 or 2 in my wallet with no problem.

    Have a nice trip and do not worry about your 2 or 3 films in your pocket. If you wanted to be really safe you could take the films out of the packaging and put them in a pack of chewing gum or candy. Be careful since the films as you know can be very delicate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smith23 View Post
    going on a flight here soon and im worried that the suboxone film is going to show up in my carry on. i dont have a prescription therefore im worried that they may see it. I only need 1 or 2 of the strips to last me a whole week. I am almost completely off of the suboxone!! But i HAVE to have it with me throughout this trip. What are your opinions on how this will effect me or if it will?
    Put it anywhere, I stash my illicit things inside my tooth brush travel container...or if you wanted you could take the film out the wrapper, and put it inside a gum wrapper (gum out wrapper in) fits perfect. Film strips actually are stronger intitially then tablets, as the film dissolves quicker / better and you arent left with that gunk under your tongue. General guide is one starting films, one 8mg film is equiv to one 10mg tab. Suboxone is really a life saver for opiate dependence, it beats the shit out of Methadone, but sadly its a rich mans cure. Even with insurance until I meet my deductible its 525$ for 60 8mg tabs, 125$ for the Dr visit, its super expensive, plus the random UA I take costs...sit down for this...564$$!!!! I just about punched the mailman when I saw that. Granted it tests for like 60 substances in a lab but 564 you have got to be shitting me that is insane! So basically until you reach your deductible its about 1100$ a month for Suboxone therapy (500 for medication, 100+ for Dr and 500 + for UA) The upsides are definitely there. Month supply at a time, no going to a clinic everyday, privacy of a Dr office, my sub doc even gave me 30 1mg klonopins w/ my subs. I get the idea that Suboxone is for high functioning well financed people and Methadone is more for lower functioning, not your white collar suite and tie type person, plus most accept govt issurance where Sub Drs (most) don't. My last Dr visit my psych told me that I hadn't done a UA in about 4 months so this next month he will have me do one....im like ok....so you're telling me you are going to drug test me....not that it matters, ive been clean since starting the program. On one UA I was positive for a Opiate derivative or something and I told him that it was false positive caused from who knows what, probally dating fine ass chicks, so he called the person up at the UA place and asked if it could be a false positive and they said no and my doc was cool about it he just said "well they said no, but you know what you put in your body" I'm dreading the next few months, Sub tablet production has ceased and now strips are only being made...I hate strips. They say its to prevent selling and diverting them, but im thinking its more that the strips are initially stronger therefore causing the patient to want it / like it more....that has to be it cause its def not the taste, reminds me of @sambob s bought of the clap with a bit of pecante sauce. Dirty
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    Of course regular buprenorphine was/is a lot better....and that doesn't refer to the the crush and X trick only. Subux is gradually replacing methadone in detox strucures at hospitals here.
    That's a completely free of charge treatment. I too find people on many occasions is given way much more subux than they'd actually need, in the range of 16 to 24 milles. Mind that with bupe - be it with nal or not - more is not nessarily better because of its partial agonist nature. As a result people find that 8 millies or even less are just fine, so the remaining qty goes to feed the grey market, tipically made by those who don't want to join a public detox structure where you have to disclose your full identity and take random leaks.... Before both Subutex and Subuxone even existed, I was doing okay with th 0,2 mg temgesics which were - and still are - on sched IV, so MD are not too paranoid about scripting. My doc used to write me a script for 15-20 ten pills strip every two weeks (at a price of 3,5 Euros/strip) and crush and X plus a little clonidine was working nicely for me.
    I must frankly admit that temmies helped me A LOT. A rule not to forget with bupe when swiching to it from a tradional full agonist is waiting until physical WD starts kicking in - differently one has good chances to regret. For people on 'done they suggest a 3 days stop and quite a few people just can't handle that... BTW 0,2 and 0,3 temmies became quite easy on line. I'm happy I don't need them anymore though.....

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