To New Members and Users Needing to Find Sources for X products

[kmontayne]

Dear Community Members,

It has come to my attention that many new users need a lot of help with finding sources for certain products they need to refill, for their own personal needs.

First if you haven't seen a doctor for what you are looking for. I would recommend you visit your local physician and speak to them about your illness to obtain what you are looking for to see if they can assist you in any way.

Furthermore, coming here asking directly where can I get X med, or who has X med. Is only going to get you in trouble. Some members will tell you out of generosity who has what. But out of the blue a vendor will take advantage of your situation, recommend themselves without you knowing and rip you off by inquiring in the open.

Many new members who are not used to the forum get somewhat disgruntled because of the forums rules and requirements to reach certain areas of the forum. But please remember that these rules and requirements where made because of some of the legal issues some meds have that can't be spoken about in the public (I.e. Asking for schedule 1 or 2 meds where to get them is illegal in most countries). Never the less please remember these rules and requirements where designed because of some Vendors, Shills, and abusive members where creating and making a mess in the forum to the rest of the community. So to prevent from these problems to occur again some rules and requirements where created. If a Vendor wants to get into the senior members area to shill their way through to the public, they would have to spend a bit more time and work on the forum compared if everything was just out in the public.

The way the forum is designed is only for the communities benefit. I mean, would it be helpful for everyone if vendors and other people can shill and recommend their own stores to trick everyone else for their own benefit to fulfill legitimately or to scam the users of the forum?

In my opinion I think that wouldn't be a good idea. Therefore that is why the rules are in place. And I recommend ALL NEW MEMBERS TO READ THE FORUM RULES THOROUGHLY

Please remember that what is in the senior members area, because of what is mentioned above they can only be spoken about in the senior members area. So if you find a MOD closing, deleting or merging a thread with something that is in the senior members area, please do not speak about it in the public again because it will bring the topic once more into the public. If a user continuesly keeps braking the rules they will be banned for breaking the forum rules. That is why it is important to read the forum rules.

I would also recommend that instead of requesting which source is good for what, just use the SEARCH TOOL that is above just below where it says FORUM - FAQS - etc.

And read through the forum. You will find better results researching rather then inquiring who has what because then people will tell you that they can't help you, or not respond anything to you which will be a bit worse then just researching. Use google, yahoo, or bing to research websites.

I think we will need a list of what is in the senior members area or something that tells people what is in their so that people are aware of it and not talk about it in the open but here is a small list @drboris :

Just like @taralumia said:
JUST BECAUSE IT'S ON THE LIST TO BE DISCUSSED IN THE SENIOR AREA, DOES NOT MAKE THE VENDOR TRUSTWORTHY, RELIABLE OR EVEN SAFE. Please don't read this list as any sort of recommendation.


1stClassMeds
21meds
Admedplus
247RXStore
411Pharm
AirExpressChemist
AirmailChemist
Airmaildispensary
Algador
AllofPharmaxy
B2B-Meds
Bajarx4less
Benzo-fury
Buyanychem
BuybulkMeds
buyresearchchemical
CankunRx
Care1on1
CertusRX
CheapArgenMeds
ClubAlp
ConfidenceMedicine
Diego
Discountpharmacyonline
Drugsdropship
Epharmas
Express-Meds
Fastmailes
FastPharmacyWorld
FirstcallRx
FloridaRx4Less
FrontierPharmacy
GreenPharmaz
Golden Pharma 25
HealthProvidersRx
HerbalEvo
I-pillsRx
Ibuysteroids
Igloorx
Instantcare4u
Ipillshop
JeraRx
KorovitaRx
Lowbudget-pharmacy
MacroMass
Matthieu Walter Store
MedicinesMexicoRx
MediPK
Meds India
Meds-Quality
Meds-Xpress
Medsadvocate
Medseshop
MedsMyWay
Medstore-online
MexicoRXstore
Midnight Moon
MorepharmacyRx
My-online-dr
MySecureTabs
MyModafinil
MyOTCmeds
Onlinedrugs2U
PALMIRA DRUG STORE
paylessrxonline
PharExpress
PharmacyMedPro
PharmaPermanente
Pharmasupplynow
PremierSupplier
Prescribe4u
ProcessRx
Rx2Pharma
RXField
RxMailinUs
RxOnUSA
SecureTabs
SaversRx
Secret Pharma
ServiceSolution4u
Shaz and other Sites of Shaz
Spanienexpress
StarliteRx
ThePharmacyCloud
TheRxOutlet
toptenmedsonline
UniversalMeds
USAHealthStores
USADruglist
USHealthStore
VogueRx

Just like @taralumia said:
JUST BECAUSE IT'S ON THE LIST TO BE DISCUSSED IN THE SENIOR AREA, DOES NOT MAKE THE VENDOR TRUSTWORTHY, RELIABLE OR EVEN SAFE. Please don't read this list as any sort of recommendation.


All of the above webstores can not be spoken about in the open area.
Reviews, experiences, when you ordered, if you are waiting, the imprint on the pills you received from the webstores listed above should and I recommend to be posted on its corresponding thread only.

If you start to post or create posts in the general forum guide section about shaz, or about universalmeds for example, those threads will be closed, deleted or merged with the exisiting universalmeds thread.

Therefore I would recommend that you retain from inquiring about those OPs until you are in the senior members area to inquire about them how you should. That way you don't flag yourself for breaking the forum rules. With the small list above in place, new users should know which ones are in the senior members area now. So that they can patiently wait until they have access their to read the reviews and experience other members are having with those OPs.

TO @tinmuning @drboris @Kris - If the above list should be deleted, please do as you must. I just wanted to posted it here so that people know what webstores they can't discuss in the open for future reference.

I know and understand most of the members urgency to finding sources for X meds because their products are probably running out. But you have to understand how the forum works because it is designed to help you. But because of what other people have done and because of the laws each country has, to extend the longevity of the forum, rules and requirements had to be in placed. Some vendors have been moved into the senior members area to conserve them for the users as well. I'm sure many have or know about TOPIX. You go to those forums and you will see vendors shilling like crazy and other vendors crashing other vendors to ruin their reputation. That right their confuses the users of that forum, and eventually causes people to lose money or get ripped off. With the system the forum has here, we attempt and make our best to avoid that from happening to any user here.

Sorry for the long essay, but this is meant for the new users joining the forum. I want them to understand what the forum is really about. Which is about gaining information and knowledge, to help you self-administrate your consumption if your medical practitioner can not help you. To help you find out about pills you find lying around to know what is what. To also help you find information on Online Pharmacies. The best way you can pitch in the forum is to look for threads that you see could use your helpful intellect to help others. Meaning if you see someone with a issue similar to something you experienced in your past. Give them your share of experience on how you over came that problem, to see if that helps them. That's going to help the new user with help information, and help you as user for posting. And then later in time you will have access into the senior members area.

Please remember to retain from asking where to get what because it will help you with nothing. It will probably just drive you away from the forum because of the answers some users will give. I understand you need help, just like everyone else but if some users are able to abide by the rules, research for themselves and learn how to use the community as a tool. I'm sure you can as well.

If some of the above information is incorrect, please correct me if I am wrong. This post is not intended to anyone in particular more in general for everyone especially the new users. If anyone wish to add their 2 cents please do so. Just remember to do it respectfully without trying to flame anyone.

Thanks
K

[Massiveamounts]

Great thread, it took me a while and tbf I still make mistakes but trying hard to follow tos. This will help many members new and old.

[taralumia]

Now, some of you may be reading @kmontayne's post and thinking “ooh goody, a list of great sources who sell XXX!” Let me just add this disclaimer, because I'm sure the mods and most other Senior Members will agree: JUST BECAUSE IT'S ON THE LIST TO BE DISCUSSED IN THE SENIOR AREA, DOES NOT MAKE THE VENDOR TRUSTWORTHY, RELIABLE OR EVEN SAFE. Please don't read this list as any sort of recommendation.

Although I'm not totally sure about even putting this much out in the open area, I guess it's the most straight-forward way to inform people.

[UGAgal]

Although I'm not totally sure about even putting this much out in the open area,

I don't think this list should be in open as it defeats the purpose of the rules. Why can't this be PM'd to new members as soon as they join instead??

[magchik]

@kmontayne
Great post! I understand a noob's frustration at having to press their respective noses against the glass while they acquire enough posts for entrance to the Senior's Forum. However, IMHO, it is just as frustrating to "active" members (whatever their post count/reputation), to see the phishers who are only looking to be spoon fed info for sources, thus avoiding doing their "homework".

My only suggestion is to note that this list is not presented in either an descending nor ascending format WRT value, integrity, availability and/or number of products, etc. Because as @Blockhead has long advised: buy the ticket, take the ride!

magchik

[Kittsoan1989]

GREAT LIST - I really hope this reduces the number of duplicated threads, Where can I find XXXX threads, etc. that have been going on recently - AN EXCELLENT IDEA!

[kmontayne]

@UGAgal that could be a consideration as well. But to make a better solution towards this @drboris I think will have a better idea on how to word this, where it has to go, and how to get it to everyones attention what should not be spoken about in the open. With a list it will help as well people know what can't be mentioned in the open. But we also need to share with the new members the importance of why the forum is the way it is, and what can't be spoken about in the open because one too many new users keep bringing up the same OPs to the open area and get upset because they can't get their reviews they need, or speak about X OP in the open because they where not aware of it before hand.

[Nickel]

A short version of this list has been in the Forum Guide section for months, in the sticky about threads moved to the senior area. If people actually read the Forum Guide section it would be almost the first thing they came upon. A list of vendors...

This is just an updated version of a long established mod thread. Anyway, that's the way I see it.

[akl63]

@kmontayne
I'd remove CankunRX and Walter Mathieu Store for sure

[PurpleCat]

@kmontayne

As one new member, I think it's a great idea to make that list available so that members, new and old, know which sources cannot be discussed in the open forum. It might be a good idea to make it easily retrievable somewhere for future reference when needed if that's possible.

As you pointed out, the presence of a source on the list is not a recommendation of that source, and it is very important that new members understand that before blindly placing an order with any of them. You have made that abundantly clear.

At the same time, just knowing about the existence of those sources gives new members something with which to begin their research (on PR, Google and other search engines) instead of just spinning their wheels, so to speak. Thank you for taking the time to prepare it.

[LeeBob]

New member here, long time lurker. Thanks for the list.

Most of these are well known if you have visited other boards within the last few years. But very much appreciated.

I'm so glad I found this new home, I've been lost the last few months.

[MrClean]

@kmontayne, thank you for posting this list along with your concerns and reasons. Far from a "long essay," a well thought out and presented read. And to @tinmuning @drboris @Kris, I want to thank you in advance if you decide to allow the list to remain. I imagine there are many issues to discuss.

It's nice to see some familiar names. For about seven years I was able to gain experience and knowledge with many of those listed. And a few I still keep in touch with from time to time.

I think some transparency is a good idea. The list, as published, and with the attached warnings, @kmontayne has done a great job in addressing his concerns about new members. And, at the same time, according to design, the rules and requirements remain intact. Well done.

MrClean

[PurpleCat]

A short version of this list has been in the Forum Guide section for months, in the sticky about threads moved to the senior area. If people actually read the Forum Guide section it would be almost the first thing they came upon. A list of vendors...

This is just an updated version of a long established mod thread. Anyway, that's the way I see it.

True, but this list is much more comprehensive -- 44 sources vs. 9 on the other one. It also provides more detailed information as to the purposes for which the list should be used and cautions about not considering the list a recommendation of the sources included on the list.

[Nickel]

True, but this list is much more comprehensive -- 44 sources vs. 9 on the other one. It also provides more detailed information as to the purposes for which the list should be used and cautions about not considering the list a recommendation of the sources included on the list.

Yes, I think the new disclaimer is a great idea. That list did jump up there, didn't it? 9 to 44...really? What is that? I keep hearing there are 25,000 members now.

[tinmuning]

A short version of this list has been in the Forum Guide section for months, in the sticky about threads moved to the senior area. If people actually read the Forum Guide section it would be almost the first thing they came upon. A list of vendors...

This is just an updated version of a long established mod thread. Anyway, that's the way I see it.

Yes, I remember making a thread on OPs moved to the restricted section. Will talk to @kmontayne into merging the two threads.

[skinny]

Ok thank you for this information. I clearly have broken the rules in the past because I didn't really read them to be quite honest -- kinda like any site/softwares Terms and Conditions disclaimers (shrug) but I will be a good girl from now on. And I agree, this can be a helpful starting point for someone to do their own research if they have questions about anything listed.

[Kris]

@tinmuning, only Prescribe4u was missing. Added now. It's great you've made this list @kmontayne, it just had to be done. Making this thread sticky.

[mojoking]

I have always found out that a lot of research is needed before I start handing out money. I normally find a good vendor or two and stick with them until I start having problems and then try to start finding others by placing small orders with places others are seeming to have good luck with. I also found out that sending emails to vendors and not being a smart a$$ helps. I always try to be nice and dont try to rush them but I do follow up every day or so. I wont send more than 2 emails a day.

[Massiveamounts]

I have always found out that a lot of research is needed before I start handing out money. I normally find a good vendor or two and stick with them until I start having problems and then try to start finding others by placing small orders with places others are seeming to have good luck with. I also found out that sending emails to vendors and not being a smart a$$ helps. I always try to be nice and dont try to rush them but I do follow up every day or so. I wont send more than 2 emails a day.

If only more would behave like you do we would have so many more long term vendors so many less annoying irritating threads that anger people like me lol and many less crazed customers pissing vendors off and having them lose faith in the customers they serve.

A little bit of common sense kindness and understanding goes a really long way.....and research small orders first and all the above you mentioned too!

Great post man you should post it as a thread and that shit should be stickied and sent to all new members imo ha they should behave in the same way.

[pwr002]

I enjoy this forum much more as a poster, rather than only a reader. I guess in the beginning I was just scared to post as I didn't know what to talk about. but just like a community i realize you can talk about anything