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    @waverunner glad you are getting a Dr. to help but having to travel that far is incredible.

    I get Mylan valium 5 milligrams from a chain pharmacy (not Wal Mart).

    They did not seem to work very well.

    It must have been tolerance but wasn't.

    Thanks for the tip about this.
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    I have had luck at all these places. It depends on if the pharmacist is willing to do it. My doc used to write a small note on the script saying some like "fill w/ watson brand only for medical reasons"
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    Sorry for not responding lately; didn't want to say anything, but I haven't been well. Have only been able to drink liquids, not even soups, past few days. Really BAD left lower abdominal pain following through to my back whenever I try to eat.

    Came on after 15X/day continual diarrhea, thought it was the Mylans, or the Mallinkrodt PK's being weak, but there's other stuff and don't want to be a downer. Cut my meds so could feel if pain got worst, but honestly, never felt this level before--excruciating, can't do anything, even walking hard, specially when left foot hits floor, jars my whole left abdomen.

    Got better when went on liquids (I know, sounds like pancreatitis, hope it's that simple, but dr says not with my cervical symptoms, so please pray it aint the Big C,,,no drama here, I don't do that).

    Wasn't this bad when saw specialist but he's worried, ordered abdominal ultrasound & CT cause have bad case of gallstones (effects biliary tubules/digestive enzymes from the pancreas--liver, etc. to the large intestines) but been asking secretary since Wed to fax order so I could get ins. approval, she hasnt had time, guess. Too sick to be angry, my son's going down there tomorrow, 1 hour drive, to get them; gotta find out what's wrong, but want to do it the right way with the right tests instead of letting the ER docs guess..no confidence in that level of care.

    Primary told me Thursday go ER or wait 2 weeks to see him, so unless something changes, might get there just to be sure my Potassium's ok after 5 days like this, heart could suffer and all. Was hospitalized for this long time ago and the lab tests they took after 13 hours (cause vitals were fine, they took their time) made them finally take rather frantic notice and ended up in ICU.

    Never felt back pain/colon burn like this, plus the other stuff too hard to explain.

    Just wanted to thank you all--pharmacist won't replace the crumbling Mylan Val, btw. Have 10 Pax 5mg to help out a little with 10mg Teva which are ok; was going to order Pax again from TTM before this happened **IMPORTANT: everything's still ok with them, right? Sure all's fine,they're great. Delvery time, cc, Pax all same as three months ago? Not being lazy, just can't sit at the PC for long LOL considering the length of my posts... But really, need help if sitation's changed there--PLEASE PM me, someone, if any new developments; cant research in this condition it's so bad. I know, shoulda gone to hospital last week, in denial and very very scared.

    Way I feel, that was a big mistake...

    Take care all, been really great, and again, THANK YOU GUYS.............................................. ...................WR
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    Quote Originally Posted by waverunner View Post
    Sorry for not responding lately; didn't want to say anything, but I haven't been well. Have only been able to drink liquids, not even soups, past few days. Really BAD left lower abdominal pain following through to my back whenever I try to eat.

    Came on after 15X/day continual diarrhea, thought it was the Mylans, or the Mallinkrodt PK's being weak, but there's other stuff and don't want to be a downer. Cut my meds so could feel if pain got worst, but honestly, never felt this level before--excruciating, can't do anything, even walking hard, specially when left foot hits floor, jars my whole left abdomen.

    Got better when went on liquids (I know, sounds like pancreatitis, hope it's that simple, but dr says not with my cervical symptoms, so please pray it aint the Big C,,,no drama here, I don't do that).

    Specialist ordered abdominal ultrasound & CT cause have bad case of gallstones (effects biliary tubules/digestive enzymes from the pancreas--liver, etc. to the large intestines) but been asking secretary since Wed to fax order so I could get ins. approval, but hasnt had time, guess. Too sick to be angry, my son's going down there tomorrow, 1 hour drive, but gotta find out what's wrong, do it the right way with the right tests instead of letting the ER docs guess..no confidence in that level of care.

    Primary told me go ER or wait 2 weeks to see him, so unless something changes, might get there just to be sure my Potassium's ok after 5 days like this, heart could suffer and all. Was hospitalized for this long time ago and the lab tests they took after 13 hours (cause vitals were fine, they took their time) made them finally take rather frantic notice and ended up in ICU.

    Never felt back pain/colon burn like this, plus the other stuff too hard to explain.

    Just wanted to thank you all--pharmacist won't replace the crumbling Mylans, btw. Have 10 Pax to tie me over, was hoping to order from TTM before this *everything's still ok with them, right? PLEASE PM me, someone, if any new; cant research in this condition) and I literally can't sit up it's so bad. I know, shoulda gone to hospital last week, in denial and very very scared.

    Take care all, been really great, and again, THANK YOU GUYS.............................................. ...................WR
    I hope you feel much better m8 and get the treatment that's right for you.

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    OK, so I have the PAX 10 and have been able to now take them and have a little input. I actually have placed a second order to see if I can get something that works a little better for me. I received the PAX 10, and although I feel they are a real and legit product, they do not seem to calm my mind like the diazepam (Mylan everyone seems to hate, lol!) that I get here in the US. They have helped to relieve the physical symptoms of my anxiety, however my mind still races with the "what if's". I did just get a script filled of the mylan 10mg a few days ago locally. I break the pills in half and take that. I noticed with the mylan that at 50 minutes in, I got the calming feeling of my mind and body and am actually able function without caution. With the PAX, I have been able to do the things I need to do, but my mind still races. The pills are sealed and foil backed with the appropriate markings and taper. And they are from a reputable vendor. I think maybe it's just a chemical thing with my body and mind. However, wouldn't diazepam be diazepam be diazepam as long as the mg's are equal? I am now waiting to get the Betapam 5mg from the same place. They may be here today, or very shortly. I will post opinions on that when experience allows. I usually only take 5mg once a day, 4 to 5 days a week. I do take 10mg about 1 time a week in tougher situations. Again, this is just my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackBear View Post
    Airmailchemist sends a generic by Actavis, one of the best generic diazepam you will find, without a doubt, good packing, fresh, but a little overpriced maybe? Diazepam is my favourite benzo so I DO know a lot about where to find the best.
    Like I sais, the Actavis (who are the owners of Purepac USA) is one of the best. VogueRx sell my all time best, Terapia, which thank the Lord is still exactly the same as before the company got bought (well the majority of shares were bought) by Ranbaxy. Before that, Roche had a big shareholding. But I remember getting Terapia for next to nothing in the 80s before the wall came down and realised that the benzos behind the iron curtain were a hell of a lot better than in the West!!! I got a nice contact when on holiday there in 1987, and regular packets. The price is stupidly high now, it's 90 for 100 but usually cheaper on the 'special offer' page, last I saw US$75. Worth every penny. Americans might not be used to tablets without imprint marks, but they always send 4 or so in blister so you can see what it is. They also sell Rudotel, a brand of medazepam, close relation of diazepam, but the LaborMedPharma generic is not as good as the other two types I've had. Ask for the Swiss Sandoz ones, 10mg.
    From Slovenija you get Apaurin, which is blue 10mg, Terapia is white. Audibenzos (used to be BTA) sell them and the best alprazolam in the world, Ksalol. I've forgotten the site but you should find it with a bit of Googling, for Hungary's Richter Gedeon generic, which is real fast working and melts in the mouth, good for under the tongue. Another favourite. Stesolid is usually sold as a 'rectal tube' like for plugging, but if you can find tgem, and I've been looking for three years, the tablets are popular in Sweden. LET ME KNOW IF YOU FIND A SITE FOR STESOLID TABS THEY ARE TERRIFIC. Lastly Audibenzos can sell Bensedin, comes from Serbia, is very good.
    My advice is DO NOT buy Roche branded VALIUM online unless you are sure it's made in Europe. 90%+ of Valium brand online are fakes from Pakistan and though they are very well made and you can't tell by looking, they are weak and poor quality and who knows what else is in them apart from diazepam? Which by the way is never close to 10mg.
    My advice is go for Terapia and Apaurin, you will not find better.
    Have you bought from them lately? Are you getting the 5mg or 10mg or both. What brand name or generic names are you getting? I would have to look it up but there have been some weak ones coming from them I just can't remember which and when we got them and had them tested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gladheart View Post
    @BlackBear what is your opinion on Teva UK Limited 10mg Diazepam tablets? I have a bunch from AMC and I feel the the strength is OK, but maybe not great. I have been using Xanax for several years and that may be altering the effect of the Teva Diazepam. Any thoughts on the .50mg Xanax that AMC has for sale?
    I'm not sure about these guys but some of the vendors have better low dose stuff than the higher dose stuff.
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    @Gladheart
    Teva valium are a great brand which originates from Isreal, we get them at our chemists in the UK so if you have the real deal they should not feel week. I was unhappy with the activas diazepam I received from the vendor and was able to compare to my prescription from my GP in uk. Therefore, I no longer ordered any other meds from them so unable to give you an experienced users perspective on the Teva's but as I said they shouldn't feel weak! :-(

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    Just to add to @BlackBears point on the roche from India.
    Indian roche come as a white tablet not blue so if you have blue roche claiming to be from India you have been scammed, in saying that even the white roche are hit and miss and I wouldn't buy unless I was in India and had the opportunity to try the meds from a few different sources which I do when I'm in asia. I usually go to about three different chemists and buy a small amount then give them each a try and 9 times out of 10, one of the chemists will have the real deal. Just a little advice on how to buy abroad when you are there! :-) :-) :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burglarandco View Post
    OK, so I have the PAX 10 and have been able to now take them and have a little input. I actually have placed a second order to see if I can get something that works a little better for me. I received the PAX 10, and although I feel they are a real and legit product, they do not seem to calm my mind like the diazepam (Mylan everyone seems to hate, lol!) that I get here in the US. They have helped to relieve the physical symptoms of my anxiety, however my mind still races with the "what if's". I did just get a script filled of the mylan 10mg a few days ago locally. I break the pills in half and take that. I noticed with the mylan that at 50 minutes in, I got the calming feeling of my mind and body and am actually able function without caution. With the PAX, I have been able to do the things I need to do, but my mind still races. The pills are sealed and foil backed with the appropriate markings and taper. And they are from a reputable vendor. I think maybe it's just a chemical thing with my body and mind. However, wouldn't diazepam be diazepam be diazepam as long as the mg's are equal? I am now waiting to get the Betapam 5mg from the same place. They may be here today, or very shortly. I will post opinions on that when experience allows. I usually only take 5mg once a day, 4 to 5 days a week. I do take 10mg about 1 time a week in tougher situations. Again, this is just my opinion.

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    I tried the 5mg Bpam's from KrugerLand..quite satisfied and did not give me the background headaches from generic RX here in TGWN.

    Ordered Pax 5mg, same source TTM, heard good things..so we'll see

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    I tried the 5mg Bpam's from KrugerLand..quite satisfied and did not give me the background headaches from generic RX here in TGWN.

    Ordered Pax 5mg, same source TTM, heard good things..so we'll see

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    After reading thru this thread im a lil surprised no1 has mention the blue Karnel 10's... which are my personal favorite.

    Ive tried em all.... Pax, Ranbaxy's , Roche, barr , Danbury , Mylan etc ( Im probly missing 1 or 2 but you get the point )

    The Mylans are by FAR the worst of the bunch... if you have any other option available for you to get go with that brand instead.

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    Just my opinion... Whats great for 1 person may not be so great for another. Different strokes for different folks

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    I just ordered diazepam 10mg Teva UK Limited from AMC. I have no tolerance whatsoever as I have not taken a benzo in 10 years.

    The pills are not bunk. They are active and they do something, but certainly nothing pleasant. I took 10mg and felt drowsy like I had just taken a Benadryl. I was also dizzy whenever I stood and just generally felt unwell and maybe even a little toxic.

    This could just be my reaction to diazepam or the Teva brand I took are just junk. The pills I got were totally worthless imo.

    I'm going to try benzos one more time from AMC, but I'm sticking with the brand name original manufacturers from now on.
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    Now that I will soon be allowed into the seniors area I have a ton of information on Lab tests for benzos from many different places and I will share where you can get the absolute best Gador 2mg bars anywhere and the price will knock you over. I will also be able to share lab results from many of the vendors mentioned here with actual numbers and not 'well maybe it's my tolerance, or I think they may be OK not just as good as the real thing..etc.' At any rate we have tested from 9 questionable vendors so far this year and I plan on testing from at least another 7 or 8 before the end of the year. So we will know who's got what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grcauto View Post
    Now that I will soon be allowed into the seniors area I have a ton of information on Lab tests for benzos from many different places and I will share where you can get the absolute best Gador 2mg bars anywhere and the price will knock you over. I will also be able to share lab results from many of the vendors mentioned here with actual numbers and not 'well maybe it's my tolerance, or I think they may be OK not just as good as the real thing..etc.' At any rate we have tested from 9 questionable vendors so far this year and I plan on testing from at least another 7 or 8 before the end of the year. So we will know who's got what.
    I am sure that would be of great interest to lots of people on here.

    However with respect, how will we know that these are completely accurate and honest? How will you prove the validity of the information you post?

    I look forward to your future posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by halohippe View Post
    I am sure that would be of great interest to lots of people on here.

    However with respect, how will we know that these are completely accurate and honest? How will you prove the validity of the information you post?

    I look forward to your future posts.
    I have a friend who will remain anonymous. He's a pharmacist with an Masters degree in chemistry. We've both lost friends to drugs that came from a bad source. Let's agree to this one thing, what we are doing here is to try and find the pushers with the highest quality stuff and also price is a concern. Every single seller of a pill, capsule, syrup, inject-able, or whatever form it may come in if it requires a prescription and they will sell it without one you are dealing with a drug dealer/pusher. It makes no difference how we cut it or with whatever brush we paint it with they are pushers and you cannot know for sure what they are pushing unless you know how to do some form of basic testing of the product. Most people on these forums believe as long as they get pills in pharmaceutical blister packs they have to be OK. We have found pills from Pakistan that were in authentic looking blister packs that had different poisons in them some strong enough that if you were to take a 'get high' dosage you would get 'dead'. I have spent some of my own money to buy from a new pop up just to have there stuff tested. I use drugs everyday. Most are prescribed but those that are not are probably at least half have been tested by my friend and he also will get rid of the bad stuff and make me capsules with the proper amount of medicine I require. I have a script for 90 5/350 Vicodin a month I was getting twice that over 10 years ago and it was from a doctor by prescription. I wouldn't be surprised if they cut mine back some more. I will probably be looking for a good pain provider but I know they are hard to come by and I don't wan't to ask my friend to make me anything illegal. As a little background, I was a mid/upper level dealer in the early 70's to 1994. I ran the three major drugs from Florida to Michigan for Colombian's whom I needed an interpreter to communicate with. My pharmacist friend and I came together through a mutual dealer who told me about the crank this guy could make and how much better it was than the yellow stuff I was getting from my bathtub pharmacist. Well, I said I would meet the guy and our first interaction was to do a trade of some of his glass for some of my 85% pure blow. Well time went on and I kept running the east coast and was beginning to get strung out on the crank and blow. I was more than lucky that a friend of mine, who will also remain anonymous, was able to get me out of my 'duties' with the cartel without catching a bullet. I know if I ever were to be jailed for anything drug related or not I would probably not made it to arraignment let alone trial.
    At any rate, my trip through near three decades of my own from of dealing and being a drug addict I seen more than I care to remember of friends who died with a needle in their arm or shooting themselves because the pipe or needle had them in a place no one every wants to go. I'm probably one of the oldest living drug addicts on the face of the earth. I've put several houses and two businesses in my arms and legs and where ever else I could get up a vein in the last two years of my addictions. I was in my early 40's lying in a bed in a hospital dying of hepatic and renal failure when I contemplated eternity and I feared dying. There's a verse in the Bible that says. 'The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.' I asked the Lord to forgive me and save me from my sins, (I had heard the gospel many times when I grew up and while I was an addict, but it never made it from my mind to my heart). After asking the Lord to save me a peace came over me that I can only explain as being better than any dragon I have ever chased. It was probably within one hour of that time that I had to piss and I couldn't quite.
    I'm not going to preach anymore this is just a true fact of my life and what I went through. I have no doubt that the nervous system problems I have and the fact that my body feels 20 years older than it is are all related to the fact that I abused my body so bad for so long. I thank the Lord for saving my soul in the hospital bed that day and I thank Him that I never got hooked on one on the three main drugs I muled all those years, heroine. It was mostly Mexican and looked like Cocoa. My friend the pharmacist got strung out on it and I had to ween him off it. He didn't get much sleep for some time and he had to show me how to use his equipment to make a drug he used to help him with the withdrawals. I provided Valium and some barbs also but it was close to 2 months until he could function without some kind of 'helper'. He tested the cocoa stuff the first time I showed him some and it was 82% pure. It was so dark you couldn't even see it register when you were in, you just knew you were as you could see it fill.
    Enough of this. I don't find pleasure in digging up my sinful past, but it just might help someone else from going down a similar path.
    I will leave you with this, 'Sin will take you where you don't want to go, it will keep you longer than you ever wanted to stay, and it'll cost you more than you are were ever willing to pay!'

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    I kind of took you around the circle of your question. When there are questions about quality we may have some info that is current, but that doesn't guarantee the next batch out of the same vendor is going to be of the same quality or from the same manufacturer. We consider our information to be accurate at the time of the test. That's all we can guarantee. My friend does this with much schooling and experience. He's been directly involved with the drug industry both legal and illegal and spent some time for manufacturing what the DA said was 'the highest quality methamphetamine they have ever tested being better than 99% pure.
    The thing we have found disturbing is that some vendors will provide quality drugs and the next thing we find they are bunk. It get's disturbing to try and keep up with it all. I have some information I will share in the seniors forum about two know companies to avoid that are mixing pills with poison. These tests were both performed on stuff that came in just the last 5 to 6 weeks. We advise all buyers to avoid buying anything from Pakistan unless they REALLY know what they are doing. It could be the last time you buy from anyone.
    If you want credentials, I'm afraid this is all I can provide.
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    What you are saying is so true @grcauto .... You never know exactly what you are getting when getting something online.. be it from the US or ********. They can look totally real, be in blisters that look real, but how do you really ever know? By testing, now most of this cant do this without high tech equipment. I think most of us do "testing" by using it. I think the smart thing is to use as small amount as possible of every new item you get, even if you have gotten the same letter from the same vendor multiple times. I mean some vendors could spit out some bad product when they go bad, or they could just get bad products without even knowing it. Ive heard of so many people getting real authentic meds that are BUNK. Wonder what were in the bunk meds? It could be something that is no more harmful than say.. sugar, but it could also be something deadly, something the "maker" found cheap and could presh into a pill. Thats why I usually still to a few vendors and same meds, but like I said I am very careful still, seeing what meds look like, dates, taste test etc.. Be safe people!

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    I've heard great things about the generic 10mg diazepam with a "D" over a line with "10" underneath. Besides those, I keep hearing about Bensedin and Aup's. Any of those three sound like winners to me. I'm also curious about the "DAZ" brand. I've seen pretty cheap prices on them and am curious if they are decent or not.

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    Hey guys anyone had any run ins with a brand of diazipam named Elvis - Calmvis 10ml Blue Blisters id sure like to know if these are junk or not , answers on a postcard please !!!
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