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    ANyone seen any fake opana's going around. I received some that are only a partial match for the new formulation of opana. I'm not sure and there seems to be little effect, but that also has been reported about this new formulation. Just trying to figure it out....thanks


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    What about them is inconsistent, besides possibly the dosage?

  3. Mostly that they are convex not concave and definitely are the newer formulation. The markings are E on one side 40 on the other, but are convex. I just ground one down with a grinder and it shreds into what looks like shreds of cardboard....but definitely still that difficult plastic-like substance.

    The one confusing factor also, is if you go to drugs.com pill identifier they have pictures of the to 40mg ER as being concave, but also have a second picture with them being convex.

    They also come from a longtime trusted supplier. I haven;t heard back from him yet. While I don't have senior status to enter the area to talk about him, he is spot on...never done me wrong.

    I've been thinking maybe they come from a different manufacturer or something, but then when it comes to oxymorphone, endo seems to have the corner.....idk. I appreciate the input/help.

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    Endo switched from convex to concave a few weeks after releasing the new formula oxymorphone. No idea why they did that but both the round and the concave are legit pill shapes from Endo. Which doesn't mean someone couldn't counterfeit them. But don't let the pill shape throw you.

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    Go to opana.com, click I am a healthcare professional, then click View Opana ER Tablet Evolution. Most of the photos I've seen around look like the original formulation 40mg. Does that look more like what you have?

    On a side note, OM is something like 10x+ more potent than OC. One 40mg pill is enough to kill several non-tolerant users. The time release stuff can make it tough to tell how much you're getting. Be careful unless you really know what you're doing (and still be careful, even if you do) ^^

    (also, this should probably be moved to the senior section soon...)
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  6. Thanks guys. Great info and direction here. I think I'm all good.....was just a bit paranoid. I appreciate your replies...

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    Is there a safe source to send a pill to for a chemical breakdown? I know there would be a cost involved, but it would be worth it to find out if the pills are fake or possibly a dangerous mix.

    And what I mean by safe is that it won't come back to bite you in the a$$...

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    as for it being 10x more potent i dont know about that.
    I thought it was 2x as potent, one 40mg opana pretty equal to 1 OC 80, basically 1mg of oxymorphone=2mg oxycodone.
    But still dangerous for opiate intolerants especially if they defeat the time release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike1337 View Post
    as for it being 10x more potent i dont know about that.
    I thought it was 2x as potent, one 40mg opana pretty equal to 1 OC 80, basically 1mg of oxymorphone=2mg oxycodone.
    But still dangerous for opiate intolerants especially if they defeat the time release.
    Actually think 3x-5x times stronger. One 40mg Opana will last me 6-8 doses of pain relief compared to 4 doses from a 80mg Oxy. Adding alcohol could make it up to 8x stronger than oxycodone. I don't know about the new formula Opana though. I hear it's less strong though I don't know why it should be.

    Most people don't believe opana is that much stronger than oxy and unfortunately have to find out for themselves over a toilet lid for about 4 hours.
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    Bioavailability of OM depends very much on the ROA. Seen figures from fairly credible sources ranging from 2-15x OC potency for different ROAs. The alcohol issue should not be underestimated, this is a clinically proven phenomenon that could easily lead to an OD.

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    My doctor took me off ms contin and put me on opana er 10 mg. twice a day. I hated this medication. Even at a low dose I had terrible side effects. Insomnia, constant headache, anxiety. I thought it was withdrawal from the morphine but I stayed on it for a month and finally had my doctor take me off.

    The new formula may be the reason for the awful side effects. My stomach was upset all the time. They keep changing medication for chronic pain, which is bound to change how it effects people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chell55 View Post
    The new formula may be the reason for the awful side effects. My stomach was upset all the time. They keep changing medication for chronic pain, which is bound to change how it effects people.
    I wouldn't be surprised...I've heard many complaints of both stomach issues and lack of efficacy concerning Perdue's anti-abuse OP oxycodone formulation, which I believe is fairly similar to reformulated Opana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coachmcguirk View Post
    Bioavailability of OM depends very much on the ROA. Seen figures from fairly credible sources ranging from 2-15x OC potency for different ROAs. The alcohol issue should not be underestimated, this is a clinically proven phenomenon that could easily lead to an OD.
    When comparing the analgesic potency of ER oxymorphone and oxycodone, there is really only one potential route of administration given the new formulations of both: PO. What other routes are you referring to?
    There is some variation on equivalency tables between these two narcotics but I've never seen any chart indicating oxymorphone at 10-15X the potency of oxycodone.
    Highest I've seen is 4X-5X.
    Agree with you on the alcohol warning.

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    The e 40 sounds correct to the only one that I have seen. For me it was about 2 maybe 2.5x stronger than oxycodone. It completley destoyed my tolerance though. I have also heard that if it was taken in a way that is impossible due to the new formula it was MANY times stronger. But I avoid that method of ingestion anyways. Definetly a very powerful drug you have there though. Be careful!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diversion View Post
    Is there a safe source to send a pill to for a chemical breakdown? I know there would be a cost involved, but it would be worth it to find out if the pills are fake or possibly a dangerous mix.

    And what I mean by safe is that it won't come back to bite you in the a$$...
    Actually there is a good legitimate place where you can get pills/any drug checked out.

    EcstasyData.org: Lab Test Results for Recreational Drugs

    If it's ecstasy they charge $40, any other drug will cost $120 which really isn't that bad. I know a few vendors have been outted as scams by results from this lab.

    They are very reputable and if you are buying large quantities and want to make sure, I would send in a sample to them for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alumni View Post
    When comparing the analgesic potency of ER oxymorphone and oxycodone, there is really only one potential route of administration given the new formulations of both: PO. What other routes are you referring to?
    Sorry, it's my understanding that other users have received warnings for discussing the bioavailability of OM in too much detail. *shrug* But from a harm reduction standpoint, making people aware that there's a potential 10x difference in bioavailability is fairly important, analgesia is not the only effect of this medicine, and there's never just one way to do anything ^^
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    I, too worry about the content of some meds I've gotten from a reputable supplier, SS. I have read that they are weaker which they are if not totally ineffective. Also ,whats the filler??? I am going to look into that lab but it is expensive. One of them is definitely not the branded version which they claim on the blister pak. I am a nurse and know for sure it is either very old formula,
    generic or a fake.
    Thanks for you for your info heartsoup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coachmcguirk View Post
    Sorry, it's my understanding that other users have received warnings for discussing the bioavailability of OM in too much detail. *shrug* But from a harm reduction standpoint, making people aware that there's a potential 10x difference in bioavailability is fairly important, analgesia is not the only effect of this medicine, and there's never just one way to do anything ^^
    I understand your reason for warning people about one medication being stronger than another for safety's sake. But for accuracy's sake, I don't believe there's any way Opana ER is 10-15 times more potent than OxyContin.
    And since both of these meds have been re-made into formulations that are extremely difficult to crush, melt, etc., I also don't think there are any viable alternate routes of administration that might affect their "effects."
    Especially when discussing bioavailability (PO), there is just one way of doing these drugs.

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