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    Hey all, I posted a similar post in the antibiotics forum and am doing another one for anabolics. I want to know if anyone has a good primer for all this bodybuilding anabolic steroid stuff. From my use of the word stuff I imagine you can get how much I know about it. I have a friend how juices, but as much as I love him, he isn't the smartest guy and i don't want to take the things he is offering me. I want to know more so I can either choose to do it smartly or choose to not use and help my friend stop using. Thanks.

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    I spent almost a whole year researching steroids before I took the plunge. There's a ton of information on the web. I would join a couple good bodybuilding forums that have an anabolic steroid discussion section. Check out elitefitness.com anabolicenhacment.com there's a few really good ones.

    Another thing you need to know about steroids once you take the plunge most of the time it's not just going to be a couple of cycles and your out of the game. If you are serious bodybuilder you will be using hormones for the rest of your life. Taking steroids reduces your bodies ability to make it's own hormones so when you come off it can really be hard physically and mentally.
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    I was under the impression that the estrogen level is what turns on the male's making and not making testosterone. Sort of like a float switch on your toilet. I make sure I take a anti aromise like Femara (letrozole) so i keep as much testosterone and keep my body making testosterone. To be safe I will cycle off as I don't want to take the chance I am incorrect.

    I do know there is a famouse bodybuilder from the 1970's and he did not cycle and he makes NO testosteron. He is on HRT for life now. He looks like a skinny old guy but is honest about his mistake.

    If I can help I will answer what I know. I made my own gear from cattle growth hormones for years. No I order from these pharmacies and only take Test Enth and Femara. I feel so much better now. Ia m 50 years old.

    Oh yes, i had anxiety and I feel the testotsterone is helping significantly.

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    Hey all, I posted a similar post in the antibiotics forum and am doing another one for anabolics. I want to know if anyone has a good primer for all this bodybuilding anabolic steroid stuff. From my use of the word stuff I imagine you can get how much I know about it. I have a friend how juices, but as much as I love him, he isn't the smartest guy and i don't want to take the things he is offering me. I want to know more so I can either choose to do it smartly or choose to not use and help my friend stop using. Thanks.
    Anabolics by william llewellyn is very informative on this subject
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve12345 View Post
    I was under the impression that the estrogen level is what turns on the male's making and not making testosterone. Sort of like a float switch on your toilet. I make sure I take a anti aromise like Femara (letrozole) so i keep as much testosterone and keep my body making testosterone. To be safe I will cycle off as I don't want to take the chance I am incorrect.
    Its the other way around. Because your injecting a lot more testosterone into your body than you naturally produce your body will make more estrogen to compensate. You do need some estrogen in your system to keep your sex drive high, your joints lubricated and your skin healthy. If I where you I would drop the letrozole and switch to either amiridex or aromasin. Letro is strong shit and it will eliminate all of the estrogen in your system thus killing your sex drive, your joints and your hdl good cholesterol levels. I would switch to aromasin since it doesn't effect your hdl levels.

    Quote Originally Posted by steve12345 View Post
    I do know there is a famous bodybuilder from the 1970's and he did not cycle and he makes NO testosterone. He is on HRT for life now. He looks like a skinny old guy but is honest about his mistake.
    Those guys in the 70's looked great because they were using non testosterone steroids. They were running winstrol, finabolan and parabolan (the human grade version of what your making from the cow pellets), deca-durabolin, masteron, primo plus orals. Beside deca and some orals all of those are dry steroids so no water retention or estrogen conversion but they kill your natural test production, your good cholesterol levels and your sex drive (ie you get deca dick).

    And I agree with you I feel awesome when I'm on.

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    When I took trenbolone Acetate alone It did NOT kill my sex drive but I was on an emtional rollercoaster, night sweats, Severe sleep apnea and other stuff I can't think of right now.

    The research I read was lower estrogen was the signal to produce testosterone and hight levels to stop. This makes some sense. Older guys like me 50 yrs have high estrogen and low testosterone. What happens to us is the Testosterone becomes estrogen very easily and then out body sees the large amount of estrogen and stops making the testosteron. We are screwed. So by taking 250 to 500 mg of testosteron enthathate or Cyp weekly and also one of the antiestrogens you mentioned that stop the testosterone from turning to estrogen we can keep out production going. My testes are the same size as they were before I took the testosteron. The letrozole was picked as it was reasonable priced at $ 1 pill shipped to me Pharm grade. I took 1/2 a pill for a while but I notices some signs of gyno (nothing terrible) so I am bumping it up. I was taking 750 mg week of Test blend from Shaz. Once I use that up I will go back to the test Enth from Clickremedy at 500 mg week (I think the quality is better).

    I only recommend bioidentical hormones and not the synthetic ones like the Trenbolone that I took for many years.

    Steve

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