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    Just a quick note, a PO Box is no perfect solution to having someone else open up your mail. A friend delivered meds to me, domestically, to my PO Box, and it was scanned as delivered, but the post office could find no trace of this mysterious package. Either
    a) it was sent to a different PO box, and the person signed for it and kept it
    b) its contents were discovered, and rather than referring it to LE, USPS just discarded the package
    c) it really was just lost in the system

    Either way, options a, b or c, none of them resulted in my getting my mail. It might not have even prevented a mix-up, as it could've been put in someone else's box by mistake. There are ways to mitigate risk, but there is no such thing as a foolproof mail delivery system, be it public or private.


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    Um...Thanks? But I'm not the OP, and that quote isn't mine. I've just commented in this thread a few times :-)

    Quote Originally Posted by _jenny_ View Post
    you had a bad day. you rolled sixes instead of sevens. you drew a deuce. you slipped on a banana peel. any further analysis is pure speculation.

    sorry to hear that your package was opened! best of luck next time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheels46 View Post
    Um...Thanks? But I'm not the OP, and that quote isn't mine. I've just commented in this thread a few times :-)
    Um...you're welcome. the message in my post applies just as much to you as it does to both the OP and the poster the quote was taken from.
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    I had a package from vouge opened and sealed back up with the green tape. To my big surprise all the goods were in the package with no love letter. I think since there were no markings on the pills they didn't know what to do.

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    Welcome for what? The manner of your initial quote in that post attributes it to me, because well, it says I said it!

    Your first quote has me pitifully wondering why, oh why would customs open my package. I never said that. If you look back at the username associated with the first post in this thread, you'll see who you should be quoting.

    It ain't me.

    That's either "misquoting" (why yes, that does indicate that when someone tells me they've been "misquoted", think that means they screwed the pooch and are trying to save their own ass), or it is slander. Which is actionable (easily too!). There are actual, real elected judges who consider the arguments for the prosecution and the defense, ensure precedent and stare decisis are followed, and instruct the jury.

    Of course I'm obviously not suing you, just want to let you know that in meatworld, the consequences of what you just did come from a big bag of choices. Be careful out there, K? Because followed up by a snarky response like the one you followed up with to me, its an ugly start to a relationship which could be immensely helpful to you.

    Or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magician View Post
    I could be wrong, but the issue has been raised here and elsewhere, and it's my understanding that in the United States of America, "First Class Mail" (but not "priority" or "parcel post" or "express mail") is constitutionally protected as private property against unwarranted search and seizure, and requires a court order/search warrant to open. Perhaps incoming international first class mail is exempt from that, I don't kow. But just like a personal automobile, if there are external signs that the first class mail item may contain contraband or illegal material (external powders, imprints, etcetera) or it's leaking some unknown substance, then it can be opened without a warrant. I also believe that such a warrant is more easily obtained for future items after it's established that the recipient or sender has a history of such mailings.
    I believe Express mail is covered under this too. Also, "first class" mail includes Priority mail, according to the USPS website.
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    At my post office they told me they could open any package regardless of where it originated from or what particular service was used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbaker View Post
    At my post office they told me they could open any package regardless of where it originated from or what particular service was used.

    They lied to you or there has been some serious changes in the last couple of years. USPS was the only shipping company that required a warrant before opening a package, unless it was leaking or a drug dog pointed it out.

    Fedex and UPS have no rules and can open whatever they want if they feel it's warranted. Supposedly the US mail is protected by privacy rights. Who knows now?
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    LOL. this post really cracks me up. @Wheels46 you're funny!

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    Welcome for what?
    you said "thank you" to me for my post. i replied by saying, "you're welcome." does that make since?

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    It ain't me.
    ok, ok i believe you. so who was it? was it a one armed man wearing a richard nixon mask?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wheels46 View Post
    That's either "misquoting" (why yes, that does indicate that when someone tells me they've been "misquoted", think that means they screwed the pooch and are trying to save their own ass), or it is slander.
    oh yeah, you got me. the jig is up. i confess! i am deliberately slandering a random anonymous person on the internet by answering a question that they asked in an open discussion forum!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wheels46 View Post
    Which is actionable (easily too!). There are actual, real elected judges who consider the arguments for the prosecution and the defense, ensure precedent and stare decisis are followed, and instruct the jury.

    Of course I'm obviously not suing you, just want to let you know that in meatworld, the consequences of what you just did come from a big bag of choices.
    oh, no, no, please DO sue me. i owe you at least $1,000,000,000 in emotional distress, pain and suffering, not to mention character assassination from that terrible, awful, no good, very bad post i wrote answering your question in an attempt to be humorous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wheels46 View Post
    Be careful out there, K? Because followed up by a snarky response like the one you followed up with to me, its an ugly start to a relationship which could be immensely helpful to you.
    be very careful out there, K? Because a whiny, sniveling, legal action threatening, snarky post such as yours following my post that was obviously meant in jest and in no way could be considered slanderous by ANY reasonable person, it's an ugly start to a relationship which could be immensely helpful to you.
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  10. Wow. How in the world did that comment lead to threats of legal action and warnings to be careful? Take a deep breath, I think you might have misunderstood her comment.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by kbaker View Post
    At my post office they told me they could open any package regardless of where it originated from or what particular service was used.


    I believe this is true since the Patriot Act was enacted after 9/11. Yet, most post offices won't bother unless it's leaking powder from the envelope or something else obviously illegal or dangerous.


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    Ok, lil ol' me is starting to get scared. My order is floating out there in the wind with a TN that doesn't exist in USPS.

    Here is a legitimate question:

    For those of you who have ordered several times, how many times have you not gotten an order?

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    Were you able to track the package through parcel force. If so you should have seen the hand off to USPS if you didn't see this your package got snaged or lost in the UK. If it ever showed up on USPS tracking just hang in you'll get it or they will lose it occurs more than I'd like. But with all these private contractor mail carriers who look like they were recruited from a drug rehab half way house it's east to figure where your package went.

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    Ot's not USPS any more it Home Land Denfense and the ever so lovely "Patroit Act" thank you George Bush from saving us from ourselves. And your wrong they can open any thing they want and carry it right to your door opened. If it's the right stuff what ever than means.
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  14. So scary. What happened to personal freedom and privacy? We live in a glorified police state. It just makes me sick to my stomach to think that these people can open our packages on their own judgement.
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    IMHO the scariest thing about the patriot act is not that it gives gov't and LE all of these special, often highly extra-constitutional powers to be used against someone deemed to be a "terrorist" with no judicial review whatsoever. (although that is pretty darn scary in and of itself!!!). no, the scariest thing is the fact that nowhere in the bill contains any definition of what constitutes a "terrorist."

    so, IOW, a "terrorist" is anyone the gov't says is a "terrorist."
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  16. I think the green tape patrol are frequently bored stiff and once in awhile they really look for an obvious letter bearing illicit pills/meds that *shouldn't* be entering the country for this reason:.

    Inside a customs warehouse in a workstation manned by two customs inspectors--let's listen-in:
    ..man, I'm really tired of this. I've already chugged down a basket of seized meds and I'm still bored--hmmmm--Hey Phil!! Pass me the green tape, will ya? Here--put the codeine back in that hosers envelope--throw in some of those viagra's too, the sendee's a girl--lets give her a scare that'll have her looking over her shoulder for the next year--hehehe--alright, green tape 'er and send it on--but first--pass me that plain envelope there by your shoulder, I think that's the stuff from the oxycontin shop--I need to stock-up on my OC 80's....man, does this job suck!
    (end of aside)
    As you can read, the customs people are real and have their limits--and temptations;once in awhile they have to kick-back and do some practical joking.


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