Internet purchases and customs

[Keith K Stone]

Here is some interesting info about internet purchases and customs.
> Internet Purchases - CBP.gov

[QVC1212]

@Keith K Stone Great read! That's what I'm talking about. I love it when someone shares what I know for certain is an authoritative source with answers for questions about things constantly debated on PR, so you can weigh in and say, "SEE? I'm RIGHT, you're wrong!!"

[dazamate]

thanks for the link

[kineticode]

Does this make everyone more concerned about buying meds from other countries? Obviously it should,and this is the main reason Mexican vendors are able to succeed,since they ship from inside the U.S.

[jrobs]

I have obtained orders from all over. More than 50 or so times I would say. Not once has one got got in customs!! Out of the 50 only two were fake sites.

They were packages from all around the world. From Spain, New Zealand, Brazil, India and many more return addresses that came form different countries!

I just got scammed once by them sending me resources to go to and sent me a calender and a mouse pad. I thought that was nice of them, but not really for what I paid.

The other vender sent me fake things and charged my credit card twice.

Have to be careful!

[Nosey Wife]

With my slight worrisome personality reading this and then some of the other posts that revolve around seizures at customs does get me pretty anxious/nervous. On the other hand I have not ordered any SC I or II substances. The customs, although a lot gets through, I would never want to be one of the people caught with something that is a felony offense.

This is going to be a bit off-topic, but many people don't realize that is is illegal to import plants that are completely legal in the US. As the article stated only so many types of a specific suites can be imported per year. I was watching a show where people were importing endangered spiders/animals/insects/spiders, etc by hiding the animals in drop floors. Above the drop floors the crates were filled purses and some other various items. The crates were pretty identifiable to the agents, although they estimated for everyone they found a good portion would make it through. People are making big money illegally importing many things into the US.

There was another thread floating around (although I cannot find it) that was written by the DEA and/or Customs Agents. The basis of the letter stated gives leeway to the custom inspectors if they found certain items, that posed no threat, and were in-line with personal use then that agent can go ahead and process the order. I think personal use medications from countries that are on good terms with the US are pretty safe. As long as the orders are of relatively small amounts. With everything else that comes through customs the last thing the powers that be would want is to fight some elderly person, with medicare, that can't get his/her medication in the US because of medicare regulations.

[Porsche997]

I'm unable to read the link due to my post count (or lack there of), but have ordered anabolics on multiple occasions without issue. I'm not sure of custom's procedures for examining incoming items outside of the assumption that it goes through an x-ray machine, but I think the common rule is if you keep it to a quantity that would be considered personal use and not for distribution I wouldn't expect any serious issues.

[Jeanne]

Thanks for the awesome link! I always wondered about customs and that was very in-depth.

[exdbdude]

My major concern is buying from China, it seems all the arrests that have been happened cuz of fake drugs is related to china. Their factories couldn't give a donkies whats in the medicine. I'm not saying they poisoned as i;ve never seen any evidence for it but it can be really poor quality. Experience makes perfect.

[Jeanne]

My major concern is buying from China, it seems all the arrests that have been happened cuz of fake drugs is related to china. Their factories couldn't give a donkies whats in the medicine. I'm not saying they poisoned as i;ve never seen any evidence for it but it can be really poor quality. Experience makes perfect.

I'm concerned about that too. I don't think that I've ever purchased meds from China. However, I do use an e-cigarette, but I buy artisan ejuice from american suppliers instead of using the cheaper Chinese fluid. I'd be really afraid to inhale anything made in China!

How would someone know if medications were made in China?

[Carter]

I'm concerned about that too. I don't think that I've ever purchased meds from China. However, I do use an e-cigarette, but I buy artisan ejuice from american suppliers instead of using the cheaper Chinese fluid. I'd be really afraid to inhale anything made in China!

How would someone know if medications were made in China?

Alot of research, even then you can't be sure. They don't put made in China on them.

I bought some 2mg generic football shaped xannies from SL about 3 years ago. Not very good, not even sure if Alp was the active ingredient. After a fair amount of research I am 98% sure these are froma China and not pharmact grade (homemade?).

[riverstyx]

yeah. too friggin useful. heart palpitations central.

[Keith K Stone]

yeah. too friggin useful. heart palpitations central.

It really does make a person think, huh!
You better take care of those palpitations, River

[riverstyx]

i have a heart med.
always taking such good care of us here, keith k stone.
well, its a cool name. easy to type.
thank u. as always~

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one of u younger ones.
yes'm.

[zippy2323]

Well here's a twist on things ! Cash to US and Drugs to Mexico ? It appears a new system was in play and I din't think of it, nobody else postd anything similar about this sysetm so it is just out of the blue. Very interesting read !

SAN DIEGO: APNewsBreak: Doc charged in prescription drug case | Nation | CentreDaily.com

Its amazing the different ways around this useless, expensive "War on Drugs". Its basically supply and demand. The rest is logistics !

So be carefull and don't take things for granted just because its been years of sucessfull orders and nop one has ever heard of a problem.

Wow...

[kineticode]

Now I can understand why America consumes 80% of the world's painkillers.The rest of the world has Heroin,Cocaine,and other drugs that are much cheaper to aquire than expensive pharmaceuticals.But I do not understand why that same location of where the pills were smuggled,is the same place where money is sent to certain vendors that ship meds from the U.S. Maybe there is no relevance to the idea of those same pills being shipped to online buyers.

[Lynx4]

Thanks for that Article @zippy2323. It was extremely interesting and something I never thought about. I guess we know how some of our Mexican friends are getting the pills to ship.

[Lethe]

I'm concerned about that too. I don't think that I've ever purchased meds from China. However, I do use an e-cigarette, but I buy artisan ejuice from american suppliers instead of using the cheaper Chinese fluid. I'd be really afraid to inhale anything made in China!

How would someone know if medications were made in China?

I hate to tell you this, but most of the juice comes from china. You will never see a web site tell you where the actual nicotine comes from. They may use reagent grade polyethylene as the transporter and they may mix the juice here in the US, but if you press the issue, you will find that either a) they never give you an answer - not a straight answer anyway or b) you'll find out that the nicotine comes from China - even if all the other ingredients are sourced domestically.

Every single company selling e-cig juice buys it from an outside source. I looked into this 2 years ago. It was true then and I can guarantee that it still is. So the best you can hope for is a company that tests the ingredients that they use.

The only shit sure way to be certain that there are virtually no contaminants (there will always be minute quantities) in your juice is if the vendor tests using GCMS - gas-chromatograph - mass-spectroscopy.

When you ask a vendor if they test their inputs, and they give you the knee jerk response of "yes" or "yes of course" or "we are too concerned for our customers to not test", etc. politely ask them precisely how do they test. Is it a particular method or technique and if so, what exactly is that method or technique.

If they give you any answer other than GCMS, then either they are full of shit or . . . . well, that's pretty much the only possibility.

I did find one place I think is still around called Intellicig in the UK. They do GCMS testing on random samples. Shipping to the states takes a bit longer - a week to 10 days as I recall - but for me it was worth it.

These days with e-cigs becoming more popular, maybe more people use GCMS, but I doubt it.

Here is the info on their EcoPure Liquid. I see they also do NMR in addition to GCMS. If you find another site that even talks about how their juice is made (in any quantifiable terms), I would like to see it because I don't there are any.

If you order from them, you might need to use Internet Explorer. I used to have trouble on their site with fire fox, but that was a few years ago.

For me, the best alternative is Nicotrol Nasal Spray (NOT the inhaler - they will try to write you a script for the inhaler - you want the nasal spray)

It comes in a box with 4 sealed glass spray bottles with a metered spray mechanism. Each bottle is 10ml. Each ml contains 10mg of nicotine. So 4 bottles is 400mg of nicotine. Depending on your brand, that works out to about 400 cigarettes.

Currently I pay $190 for a box of 4 but if your doctor writes a script and says it's to help you stop smoking, it will almost certainly be covered by insurance for at least 6 months.

Here's a picture of what it looks like.

[pcguyusa]

Now I can understand why America consumes 80% of the world's painkillers.The rest of the world has Heroin,Cocaine,and other drugs that are much cheaper to aquire than expensive pharmaceuticals.But I do not understand why that same location of where the pills were smuggled,is the same place where money is sent to certain vendors that ship meds from the U.S. Maybe there is no relevance to the idea of those same pills being shipped to online buyers.

I've been to 20 countries and nowhere have I seen drug and alcohol use/abuse as high as it is in the US. Cigarettes, yes, especially in China and the Philippines.. opiates and alcohol, no.

[exdbdude]

Well good quality packaged fakes of brand drugs are difficult to spot, its more about finding the right pharm. which you can trust. Reviews of generic meds, sources all helps. But you can't be sure online. I'm lucky enough not to have to inhale any medicine bought online, i dread to think if i did.
oh and e-cigs rock! i was going to ask: your american nicotine juice is likely to be chinese too, is it manufactured in the us? can you recommend a source.
Ive just read lethe's post. thumbs up.