The complete DEA Sched list

[SWIGRx]

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DEA, Drug Scheduling

[Keith K Stone]

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DEA, Drug Scheduling

Thanks for this helpful information! Good post, Bud.

[guitargis]

I took a look at it. Seems they are really harsh on the drugs that are opiates. And I agree with Mr. Stone. Damn good post.

[oioioi123]

so fentenyl is a class above other opiates?? its schedule 1, and most others are schedule 2. why would that be?

[guitargis]

so fentenyl is a class above other opiates?? its schedule 1, and most others are schedule 2. why would that be?

I don't know much about the logic of this system. But I understand basic law. And the number one rule of all law is real simple. At least in America. Those with the money, make the laws.

[kineticode]

Hello @guitargis ,welcome to PR. Those with the money do make the laws,but now they are all broke.They will have to get money from those who break the law,in order to keep making more laws;More laws mean more money,because there will always be lawbreakers,no matter what kind of laws they come up with. I have just learned today,that there is a schedule 6 category,which includes the drug K2 or SPICE.A local person was the victim of a controlled delivery of SPICE;He ordered it online,and somehow the authorities found out,and busted him when he signed for the package.Another new law to make more money,and it will never stop.

[sharpiesniffer]

so fentenyl is a class above other opiates?? its schedule 1, and most others are schedule 2. why would that be?

"Placement on schedules; findings required

Except ... The findings required for each of the schedules are as follows:

(1) Schedule I.—

(A) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.

(B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.

(C) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision." [20]

No prescriptions may be written for Schedule I substances, and such substances are subject to production quotas by the DEA.

Under the DEA's interpretation of the CSA, a drug does not necessarily have to have the same abuse potential as heroin or cocaine to merit placement in Schedule I (in fact, cocaine is currently a Schedule II drug due to limited medical use)

From the wiki page Controlled Substances Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And that's the strange thing about marijuana. I've heard numerous reports about it's usefulness in medical applications and the fact that no one has ever died from a THC overdose.

[guitargis]

Hello @guitargis ,welcome to PR. Those with the money do make the laws,but now they are all broke.They will have to get money from those who break the law,in order to keep making more laws;More laws mean more money,because there will always be lawbreakers,no matter what kind of laws they come up with. I have just learned today,that there is a schedule 6 category,which includes the drug K2 or SPICE.A local person was the victim of a controlled delivery of SPICE;He ordered it online,and somehow the authorities found out,and busted him when he signed for the package.Another new law to make more money,and it will never stop.

Thank You. I think we just should face facts that busting people with anything they can, and forcing every red cent out of us, is just one of America's grass root industries. We already know prison is a major industry. Hell, anyone here can invest in a prison. The best thing anyone can do in our current police state, is stay way the hell off the radar. I think with enough time. The cancer will eat itself in this country. There is enough of it....

[smithieh]

@guitargis And if enough people buy enough (of the right) shares in a prison they could take over the board and run it as a ....?

[guitargis]

@guitargis And if enough people buy enough (of the right) shares in a prison they could take over the board and run it as a ....?

Corporation?? Nah, that can't be right. A corporation wants to make money. I would call it a association. Association allows them to not apply implications back to themselves? How did I do? *I did think administration, but someone is always at the top of those* not wise?

[smithieh]

@guitargis How about a co-op, arts and crafts, gardening and health and Eastern self-defence and meditation - no religion but ethics. Drive the hard heads out back to the streets where they belong, with the cops, and we all live happily ever after in a castle with a razor wire moat.

Oh the times, they are a changin ...

[smithieh]

Sorry, nobody famous to quote. There is only one monster and it is my self, whoever I am. And change it must, through pain and understanding and eventually love. Enough love that the monster never rises again except as a servant of love. Else we are doomed to repeat the same old past, and that cannot be or I could not sense purpose. - SH

[smithieh]

@guitargis I think you are paranoid or mischievous. Even if the DEA was in this site so what? Are you up to something they might be interested in? I'm not.

A blog post written a few days ago? Anybody with mischief in mind could do that, no problem.

Are you here to convert or divert?

Edit : It wasn't your post asking about it. It was your thread advertising it that was deleted. Your first mistake is to take us for fools.

[QVC1212]

Haven't you ever heard of the boy who cried wolf?

@smithieh Thank you for answering my question as to who originally posted the thread. It was guitargis? Hmm. What a bizarre post. Cheap scare tactics will not work on anyone here, because on PR you will find the savviest online consumers available. We are too smart, too informed, and too educated to be misled by purported warnings from a member whose intentions are dubious at best, and who can provide no tangible evidence of actual DEA presence.

The DEA would have no purpose in being here, other than to try and collect information on vendors which would help them to shut vendors down. However, I believe they could collect this information through other channels more quickly and easily. Rather than scare people off with warnings, they would more likely just shut the site down. As far as fighting online pharmaceutical sales, the United States government has already made important progress in diversion. For example, they have gotten more and more cooperation from financial transaction operators like Western Union, Moneygram and Paypal. They have put a stop to Google's drug ads found during Google searches on drugs, and fined the company half a billion dollars for their unethical practices since 2003. Either the government doesn't care, or they just haven't gotten around to it.

Regardless of what goes on behind the scenes of the big scary government officials, no one on PR should live in fear, and we should do our best to quash any attempts to cultivate a climate of fear, such as would happen when people post things like "the DEA is watching!" PR users are disenfranchised or discontent, not criminals. There is a big difference. This website is a tool to share experience, hope, education and resources---not become an exchange system for illegal drug sales. So none of our law-abiding members should have anything to fear. Any members who try to walk a fine line in the gray are of what's legal and what's not, do so without any endorsement from the people who run this site.

Finally, and tonight I'll end my tedious monologue there for those who have been kind enough to listen to this rant, I'll mention something else which users do have to fear---the silk road, the Amazon of illegal drugs. Anyone who wants to break the law online, does so in that community. Because of that, I would suspect the government is marshaling resources to shut them down, unless they find it useful to identify traffickers.

[smithieh]

@QVC1212 He was a lonely boy and he'll probably be back. At some point his intent took over and it just looked like bad graffiti.

[SWIGRx]

[QUOTE=sharpiesniffer;100616

And that's the strange thing about marijuana. I've heard numerous reports about it's usefulness in medical applications and the fact that no one has ever died from a THC overdose.[/QUOTE]

thank goodness state drug laws supersede federal drug laws (except for transporting across state borders, and possible IRS problems). i love medicinal marijuana, it is not legal in my state but it is in a state not too far away XD.

@sharpiesniffer

[SWIGRx]

@drboris @tinmuning @Kris @kmontayne can i get a sticky on this, this is great info from a government source.

[smithieh]

@SWIsquallz506 I wonder if it's entirely correct though. There was some recent 'talk' about Rohypnol/Flunitrazepam being a sched 1 or 2 drug and the table at the link you provide has it as sched 4?

[SWIGRx]

@SWIsquallz506 I wonder if it's entirely correct though. There was some recent 'talk' about Rohypnol/Flunitrazepam being a sched 1 or 2 drug and the table at the link you provide has it as sched 4?

flunitrazepam is sched I in idaho montana and some other third world state. no worries. federally its sched IV because its a benzo analogue.

[smithieh]

flunitrazepam is sched I in idaho montana and some other third world state. no worries. federally its sched IV because its a benzo analogue.

Why was everyone so worried about it being even mentioned, on that thread?