Weight of Alprazolam Pills (4 legality)

[10000mg]

The punishment in my state for xanax possesion is by weight, not by number of pills. I think this is common in most states.

Does anyone know the average weight of a 2mg xanax bar?
or a 1mg football?

THANKS!

[reggin]

The punishment in my state for xanax possesion is by weight, not by number of pills. I think this is common in most states.

Does anyone know the average weight of a 2mg xanax bar?
or a 1mg football?

THANKS!

If you could name a specific brand you want weighed, that would be better. I have some 2mg bars I could weigh but they *might* be bathtub meds, no brand markings or anything, probably made in a basement somewhere. The weight of these pills will be different from another batch of bathtub pills made by a different supplier, which will be different from yet another batch of bathtub pills made by yet another supplier. Therefore, this wouldn't be all that helpful to you. Also, your law most likely refers to the weight of the medicinal ingredient, not the weight of the pills. Does it not?

[pokerman1974]

2 MG would weigh 2 MG. 1 MG is 1 milligram.

[10000mg]

I believe the filler is included with the total weight you would be prosecuted for. Just like 1 gram of cocaine mixed with 3 grams of baking soda would equal 4 grams you would be charged with. That’s how it is alteast in the USA.

I'm looking for the total weight of a 2mg bar.
I know it may vary a bit depending on brand, just looking for a good estimate.

[reggin]

Bad news, the scale I have is only accurate to 0.1 grams (100 milligrams). The pill is too light it won't even register. Sorry, but I tried.

[renwick]

Bad news, the scale I have is only accurate to 0.1 grams (100 milligrams). The pill is too light it won't even register. Sorry, but I tried.

Would it work to place 10 pills on the scale and then divide the weight by 10? Or if you have even more pills, use the same strategy. The accuracy of the scale may still throw things off but you might get close.

[reggin]

Would it work to place 10 pills on the scale and then divide the weight by 10? Or if you have even more pills, use the same strategy. The accuracy of the scale may still throw things off but you might get close.

Good thinking, but I don't have enough pills left to try this. Someone else will have to give it a shot.

[Carter]

Most of out legislators are friggin lawyers who write laws on things they often don't understand, often don't make sense, and therefore end up so open interpretation it is ridiculous, and not even the judges understand or interpret them consistently, that's why we have (we actually really need them unfortunately) so many appellate court levels. Below (in blue) is the definition of sched IV meds (quoted from the actual state statutes) in the state I live in. I didn't put the whole list in because there must be a at least 50 things.

My interpretation of this would be if smooshed a 1 mg xanax into powder and mixed in with a 25 kilogram (about 60lbs) sack of white flour you would have 25 kilo's of xanax. Notice the definition says any quantity, that could be .0000001% or even less. I won't even post or discuss the laws on possession and distribution or intent for distribution, they are really confusing, especially when you get into amounts.

Basically for sched IV possession is a class 2 misdemeanor, one level below a DUI which is a class 1 misdemeanor (unless you get a couple in a couple of years then your in the deep crap). Selling or intent to sell/distribute is of course a felony. It wasn't clear how many/much you had to have to get hit with intent. I wonder if the 25 kilos of flour with a smooshed up 1 mg xanax in it would get me someone intent to distribute.....also thing about, the majority of any xanax pill is mostly filler to begin with. The only laws that were halfway clear on amounts seemed to be pot and few other Sched I and II items.

I think I;m going to start a resentment thread!

The controlled substances listed in this section are included in Schedule IV unless specifically excepted or listed in another schedule:

1. Any material, compound, mixture, or preparation which contains any quantity of the following substances having a potential for abuse associated with a depressant effect on the central nervous system:

Alprazolam;

Barbital;

Bromazepam;

and the list goes on and on

[10000mg]

Bad news, the scale I have is only accurate to 0.1 grams (100 milligrams). The pill is too light it won't even register. Sorry, but I tried.

Thanks for trying . I was guessing a 2mg bar might be around .2 grams but it looks like it’s probably less than that. I just don’t have a scale on me.

In my state, possessing Xanax under 28 grams (1 ounce) is a misdemeanor, over that is a felony. I’m really just trying to figure out how many 2mg bars equal 1 ounce of alprazolam.

[drugbuyer]

Try reading the insert sheet/drug label that came with the pills or search for it online if you don't have it, some brands have how much each pill weights there.

[RedBaron]

If I had a bar in my possession right now, I'd weigh it on my mg scale and tell you, but by weight they could mean amount of alprazolam in the pill, instead of number of pills (i.e. a 2mg bar would get you in much trouble as 4 0.5mg pills).
But as others have said, it will vary by brand (to a significant degree for some).

[Carter]

Thanks for trying . I was guessing a 2mg bar might be around .2 grams but it looks like it’s probably less than that. I just don’t have a scale on me.

In my state, possessing Xanax under 28 grams (1 ounce) is a misdemeanor, over that is a felony. I’m really just trying to figure out how many 2mg bars equal 1 ounce of alprazolam.

Wouldn't it be nice if someone would make a xanx pill about the size of a BB (those little round steel balls shot out of an air gun, or loaded in shotgun bird shot). Ksaols (1mg) are the smallest ones I'm aware of...they could probably get 2 mg in them. I have no idea how they would score them...especially into quarters.

[fortgatlin]

Just a thought. At my work I have Mettler-Toledo microgram balance which I've used for years. I've always thought weight variance was the best measure of whether what I was getting was bathtub or made in an actual lab somewhere. Recently however, I've purchaed a carat scale off ebay, a cheap $25.00 scale that weighs to the milligram (1.000g) and I've started using that. Now they're not going to weigh exact to the milligram, but if you take a zero off and allow for some wiggle room with that last digit it should be able to verify if what you have did come from a lab. I have found this to be an extremely accurate test, and I've been bunked and I've gotten some good stuff. Please if I am mistaken someone feel free to correct me.

Kind regards,

J

[JoeyButtafuoco]

If I had a bar in my possession right now, I'd weigh it on my mg scale and tell you, but by weight they could mean amount of alprazolam in the pill, instead of number of pills (i.e. a 2mg bar would get you in much trouble as 4 0.5mg pills).
But as others have said, it will vary by brand (to a significant degree for some).

They weigh the entire pill, fillers and all.

@10000mg

Are you sure it is 28 grams to be a felony? That weight sounds like a penalty for herb. You would need a shit load of pills to equal an ounce. At that point, you are sure to get a trafficking and distribution charges if you lack a script.

[10000mg]

@jimmyfingers

In my state:

Less than 28 grams:
Class A misdemeanor

28 grams or more, but less than 200 grams:
Third-degree felony

200 grams or more, but less than 400 grams:
Second-degree felony

400 grams or more:
Enhanced first-degree felony

[Kittsoan1989]

@10000mg - If they're going by the TOTAL weight of the pill that's just asinine - I mean a Xanax bar PROBABLY (and this is an EDUCATED guess) weighs maybe 100-200mgs - That means about 99% of the bar is binders and fillers - so they're going to arrest people based 99 percent on Binders and Fillers?

Sometimes the idiocity of law enforcement even SHOCKS me - But they do they same thing with Ecstasy in my state - each X pill is counted as 250mg (doesn't matter what's really in your pill) - 4 or more pills (1 gram or more of MDMA) makes it a felony case. Just another example of the EXCELLENT work done by LE in the US!

[JoeyButtafuoco]

It is pretty damn silly. 2mg is about the size of a few grains of salt, it is not much.

A guy came into my old office after having been charged w/ felony possession of methamp. They found one of those small 'drug baggies' empty underneath his seat. They took it the lab and tested the residue.

Lets say you get caught with some blisters of Valium. LE sends it to the lab for testing and they contain 0 active ingredients. You still get charged just like it was the real thing, but it will be a slightly different charge.

Police love to overestimate how much drugs were seized.

[Alternate]

Isn't the valium situation already going to be trouble because it is not in a prescription container regardless of the amount. I also worked in an office (boss retired) and
we had someone go through a secuirty checkpoint with a pill in the pocket and
the person got a charge of pill not in prescription bottle.

Only other 'tranquilzer case' we ever had was a DUI. A guy, distraught over a divorce, was driving suspiciously and got pulled over and a field test determined he was driving under the influence of xanax.

All other drug cases were the classic street drug, drug dealers, mules, etc... the real crime rings.

Now we get to read about drugs once prescribed to us as they are being valued by weights and classes of charges.

Middle aged tax paying Americans with medical conditions are having to read this list
of tranquilzers which we could have probably gotten prescribed from a Dr. 15 years ago. And now we have the weights, contaminates included.

Always have small amounts if possible. Large amounts are an invitation to get poss with intent to distribute. Mere possession 'better' than an intent to distribute.

If we are all in jail how can we work to make the tax dollars to bail out big banks, pay for corporations' bankruptcies and the salaries of the drug fighting DEA's? The real criminals deal in cash (can't tax that), if they are put in jail, the already faltering economy keeps on.

What about that Mexican Drug Cartel that has made it to some areas of the US?

As someone wrote in the introduction here how is it going to look when US courts bring in 'mentally ill and disabled people' (their words but effective) and prosecute them? And true drug gangs run rampant with their guns and drugs.

How does that appear leading in frantic agoraphobics and people in walkers who have no criminal history at all to prosecute them, or worse throw the book at them because they had heavy chalk filled xanax?

Or people who depend on tranq. or pain pills to work and function and have to quit and get on disability at tax payers' expense.

Off soap box now, was just surprised to find a weighted list like that which caused me to have to jump on it.

[TR71979]

A 2mg bar is about 0.250g, a 1mg football is about 0.135g. I am sure that the 0.25mg and 0.5 mg footballs weigh the same as the 1mg, so having more of the less powerful tabs would get you in worse trouble than having fewer (but more active ingredient) of the 1mg pills. Gotta love the legal system....

[Carter]

@jimmyfingers

In my state:

Less than 28 grams:
Class A misdemeanor

28 grams or more, but less than 200 grams:
Third-degree felony

200 grams or more, but less than 400 grams:
Second-degree felony

400 grams or more:
Enhanced first-degree felony

A 2mg bar is about 0.250g, a 1mg football is about 0.135g. I am sure that the 0.25mg and 0.5 mg footballs weigh the same as the 1mg, so having more of the less powerful tabs would get you in worse trouble than having fewer (but more active ingredient) of the 1mg pills. Gotta love the legal system....

Ended up at this thread searching on something else (not an an intentional bump, but reading all this again just got my blood boiling). The laws really do suck and they are probably pretty similar across states. So if you where @1000mg lives, you get a felony with 120 bars. 1600 hundred bars (granted that's quite alot), possibly spend the rest of your life in jail (10-99?). Basically a 3 month month supply for someone at say 2 bars a day (180 bars total) is at the same criminal level as 3rd degree murder (manslaughter). Add a few more bars and your in with the 2nd degree murderers. Damn....I gotta go read another thread or move to Portugal or something Yeah, I know, good lawyers, plea bargains..... but still this (our laws and "war" on drugs) is so much unfair politically driven f****ked up bullshit: mad: