does anyone know of a person who bought and was arrested to pick up

[takenbadly]

ok, does anyone know of a person who ordered online ********, came to pick up meds, or made to open the packageby usps, then actually arrested on the spot? in any state in the usa?
or shortly thereafter?
i am not talking about a love letter, i am talking about an actual bust or shortly thereafter? for any amount of meds or for personal consumption like 30-50 pills.

[Good Apollo]

Google. It happens. Not for someone ordering a few ED pills usually but if you're breaking a federal trafficking law well ya might go to prison.

[mark129395]

Yes I have heard of it happening. Post office saying you have a package you need to come get and sign for. Once they signed the cops arrested them. I have also heard of them delivering it to your house and then once you sign they come in and arrest you. So it does happen but I don't think it would happen if you ordering small packages and not high scheduled drugs. I try to order things that require no signatures.

[takenbadly]

do all of the express mail service out of india have to be signed for, and if i do not sign for it, does it get sent back to point of destination?

[britt-bleu]

I heard of a bust, I think here in my town but it was a huge quantity of MJ, not pills. It happened just as you described, the police were waiting at USPS and arrested him after he signed.

[GreenThumb]

Yeah, a dude 20 minutes away from me got pinched for importing 3.5lbs of dried opium poppy pods from a supplier in the UK (same supplier and same order I had made a year earlier, too)....they whacked him up with an intent to distribute charge on top of illegal importation of a controlled substance, which was bullshit. Not sure if he will do time, but it happens, and I nearly shat my briefs when I read about it, because it could have been me.

DON'T SIGN FOR ANYTHING......ESPECIALLY IF YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE THE GUY OR GAL WHO IS DELIVERING YOUR MAIL...IF YOUR IOP SHIPS WITH A SIG CONFIRM, KINDLY REQUEST THEM TO WAIVE THE SIG CONFIRM, AND ALLOW YOU TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY, IF IT IS LOST OR STOLEN, BEATS GOING TO THE HOOSKOW ANY DAY

[Stillgoingstrong]

Yeah. They will make it as a "controlled delivery". Postman gets you to sign for it and 5 minutes later LE will knock on your door. If your name has been flagged in one way or another the probability will go up for this happening.

[Ilovemyson]

I always wondered if you just let the package unopened for a day or two, then could you just say I had no idea what was in this box officer (someone is setting me up)...seems to me they want you to open it before they bust down the door...maybe im wrong.

Guess u better not have other shit in your house though.

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Good idea though to get to know your delivery guys.

[MrClean]

DON'T SIGN FOR ANYTHING......ESPECIALLY IF YOU DON'T RECOGNIZE THE GUY OR GAL WHO IS DELIVERING YOUR MAIL...IF YOUR IOP SHIPS WITH A SIG CONFIRM, KINDLY REQUEST THEM TO WAIVE THE SIG CONFIRM, AND ALLOW YOU TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY, IF IT IS LOST OR STOLEN, BEATS GOING TO THE HOOSKOW ANY DAY

I do not order from ANY vendor that requires signature. Signing implies possession, you were expecting the package, and your name is on the package.

If by error, a vendor sent a package requiring signature I will not accept the package and let them no must be wrong address. Lose my money but a hell lot cheaper than retaining counsel and a night in jail. A prosecutor will have a very difficult case and I believe they would drop the charges. I doubt it would even get that far and charges dropped.

[Ilovemyson]

I recieve alot of packages from all over the world due to ebay, etc., so I would just say I thought it was another chinese figurine..etc., and wait a while to open it. Let them try to win that case against me....I would say it would be tough. The reason they wait, in my mind, is they wanna make sure you opened the package and know what it is.

[CreamPuffWar]

Here's a link.
Suspect Arrested for Drug Trafficking after Controlled Delivery/Pick-UP : BPDNEWS.COM

[Ilovemyson]

Could be wrong though.
Usually have never had to sign anyways but just thinking about it.

[JoeyButtafuoco]

Never sign for a package. It leaves you with almost 0 defense in court.

Take your package from the mailbox and write return to sender on it. Wait a few hours and you should be good.

There was a recent bust of research chemicals where they were importing from China. It was a multiple year investigation I believe. The owner of a website was importing something illegal. The bust was for like 1kg of something and large amounts of 5 other substances. The had him for laundering money and many other charges.

For Homeland Security and Feds to get involved, their needs to be a whole host of bad stuff happening.

For most people on here whether you order 1 xanax or 1000, you should mainly concerned with local police in small towns and having some bad luck.
Right now, so many pills are coming into the border that they really aren't enforcing any laws.

You should still be careful since breaking the law is breaking the law. Keep to yourself, never talk about resale, etc.

[Ilovemyson]

Yeah, I am small time compared to that though, I signed for 90 valium once...wasn't too worried.

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I am disabled as well and order meds I am perscribed. Usually the same brand. I have bottles from this year of the mallies, a215s, V's, so i recieve and place directly into said bottle. Not for anything I have signed for though.

[mizcreant]

I've ordered from IOP's for so many years I can't even tell you how long it's been, and how many packages I've received. Had them all in a certain place, until a legal issue caused me some paranoia and I thew 'em out, but there had to be 50-70 old 'packages' so to speak.

My point? I've singed twice, (trying out backup suppliers) had 3 love letters, and NEVER had an issue with HS, or any police dept. (Other than the LL's). Does that mean it couldn't happen? NO! Matter of fact, I'm a little on edge right now, due to 2 shipments not coming at all. (From a source I've used for the last 4 years with little problem, and any missed shipment was always resent successfully. At any rate, I would definitely be concerned if the post office wanted me to come sign for something that used to just show in my box. In fact, if I was expecting, and that happened, I'd tell 'em "nah, I'm not expecting anything... return to sender, I am not interested in the contents." I guess...??

[Good Apollo]

Unless you are importing sched 2 or H or something LE probably doesn't care mostly. Why do you think we get LL instead of a swat team busting down the door... Arg let me get my hat out...

We seem to have an iteration of this thread every other week. Ordering Viagra from India is not gonna be a big deal. Ordering poppy pods from Afghanistan is. But don't you think LE has other priorities besides busting people for ordering cheap blood pressure meds, maybe some tramadol? Idk, I choose not to stress otherwise I start wearing my hat

FYI not signing for something or writing RTS on it is no defense, if you really are in the shitter with LE they can pull so much history off your smart phone, PC, bank statements etc. but why spend 100k to bust someone who is going to get 6 months probation? If what you are doing is ordering KGs of something or it's BI that's different. But OP said from India so I assuming its Viagra or tramadol or something. Don't worry. You're probably gonna be fine.

[Alternate]

@nopizza signing is giving express (written) knowledge that you are receiving a package and by the way if we do sign lets sign with your hilarious hat on!

With all the other things you mentioned a good defense att. would point out how many people have access to those items.

But you standing there and signing - that is you in person, no hacker, no identity theft, no nasty friend who has been figuring out your personal info and uses your computer.

There was a bust at a P.O. Box when someone picked up hundreds of tranq. The op had insisted on reships, and one had the green tape on it. A po worker spotted all the incoming packages and the girlfriend was arrested when she came in to sign for them. Boyfriend sold car and she got probation.

Remember, with criminal law, all you need is a 'shadow of doubt'.

There was an article about the recent dea scam where a woman committed suicide over the payment extortion of thousands for diet pills (are those scheduled?).

The news helpfully suggests that some people are just embarrassed to ask for meds from Dr. (referring to ed meds).

The dea wanted people to report these scams.

Some commenter about the article was wondering how good would it be to let the dea know you had been scammed for (as in med).

A guy who had worked with them said a bottle of pills were not their thing - big drug deals were. If at all they would refer the case to local le who would probably not want to spend the money to get the person who had ordered a bottle of pills which was probably already gone. Again this was in the comment section but sort of made sense.

Small orders always is a good rule.

[Good Apollo]

@Alternate I agree signing is a no way out, but getting a mail box delivery and thinking you're any more safe is simply untrue... Computer forensics will get ya. And I would challenge that anyone will pay for a jury trial for something that pleas out to 3 to 6 months probation. I'm sure there are exceptions but who is gonna pay for a trial lawyer to get them off the hook for a bottle of Viagra? And while it is hard to prove that a Pc was more then the instrument of a crime some other person committed using it, the cost of doing so... I'd take the probation thanks lol.

Aside: @Kris @kmontayne @drboris the "@" function is not showing notifications when I am getting tagged.

[Alternate]

@nopizza you are right this usually is hotly debated more in murder trials where they get conflicting evidence from computer experts.

I am more on the theory of just signing with your hat on would be an automatic defense.

That is so hilarious.

I would wear it to court also.

Edited to add: schedule 4, small amount, is probation for first offense? I have no idea. I would hope it would be - but is part of that probation not taking any meds.
and doing regular ua's, etc...

[Roswell1947]

There was a bust at a P.O. Box when someone picked up hundreds of tranq. The op had insisted on reships, and one had the green tape on it. A po worker spotted all the incoming packages and the girlfriend was arrested when she came in to sign for them. Boyfriend sold car and she got probation.

Right I recall that one. They kept ordering #500ct valium in 3 packages.
Yet they only got one package and the other 2 went missing so they kept ordering
over and over. By this time #800 pills had been intercepted at customs
so the guy got a po Box in GF's name thinking that would work.