Robaxin and Skelatin

[alumni]

Maybe it would be more helpful if she said she was joking.

[DB Dicey]

I recently got a mouth guard from my dentist. It cost 250... It seems to have helped, I don't wake up with my jaw hurting. As far as muscle relaxers besides Soma, Zanaflex seemed to work pretty good, but it brought my bp down too low since i'm already on BP meds.

since i have reached semi if not permanent retirement, im kinda ticked off my dentist never suggested mouth gaurds as he always noted i must be be grinding my teeth and going through a crown, on average, every year during my last 25 working years. probably in my sleep. stress. at 900 bucks a pop, i could have retired even earlier. not one crown, cavity, in the 4 years since. fortunately, only 1 root canal, but that is usually the the likely next to last step after mutiple crowns on the same teeth. then ill have to unretire.

[sambob]

@Fireplaces on my last visit to the Dr. he said that Robaxin was very sedating, but Zanaflex wasn't as sedating. Now I've taken Zanaflex and Flexiril, both made me real drowsy, but I couldn't sleep b/c of RLS. My questions to you are; is Robaxin sedating and do you get RLS from it, I decided not to try others b/c of my reactions to Zana and Flex, only that has worked is soma, but we know how that goes. Any info/experience with Robaxin is appreciated! Thanks...

[sbg]

Hi Fire
Was out of touch due to a really busy semester, but just saw this now and it may not be worth much as you have already been scripted the robaxin . That is the muscle relaxer that I take and I have been prescribed skelaxin and flexeril in the past. Robaxin does not knock me out and allows me to function which is really important for work , but definitely takes the edge off when taken along with my other meds. It has been a really good addition. I hope that it offers you relief

[Jeremy Fisher]

@Fireplaces on my last visit to the Dr. he said that Robaxin was very sedating, but Zanaflex wasn't as sedating. Now I've taken Zanaflex and Flexiril, both made me real drowsy, but I couldn't sleep b/c of RLS. My questions to you are; is Robaxin sedating and do you get RLS from it, I decided not to try others b/c of my reactions to Zana and Flex, only that has worked is soma, but we know how that goes. Any info/experience with Robaxin is appreciated! Thanks...

I miswrote, I am on Skelatin which I don't take that much. For a while I was taking 2 at night, w/a 30 mg Cymbalta. Seemed to work ok. But I have not really given it a good try. No problems w/RLS ever, so can't comment much on that. When I did try Robaxin (some samples from my doc), I guess it relaxed my bladder too coz I had to get up 2ce a night or more to go to the bathroom. It was really the oddest side effect.

I need to start taking one Skelatin everytime I take a pain killer. Maybe together they will work better as AK suggested. @teresita, I don't remember it being expensive but we have prescription insurance, and at the most stuff our scripts are $45 which I do consider expensive.

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Hi @sbg, hope you are doing well. I had miswritten b4 and am scripted Skelatin. You can read earlier in this post about my weird side effect from Robaxin.

I too am so annoyed about the Soma. I mean how can it not be controlled in so many states, and yet be so controlled by the doctors.

I bet I could take less PKs if I had my Soma back. I was scripted 4 a day for several months prior to having my cervical ruptured disc diagnosed (1994?). I quit them no problem. I don't believe they are physically addicting. @alumni or @sbg, is Soma physically addicting? Or is it just a mental addiction?

[alumni]

Soma can definitely lead to addiction, dependence, tolerance and withdrawals.
Hence the federal DEA scheduling. Maybe you dodged the bullet.

[teresita]

It is puzzling to me though as to why doctors themselves rarely that I know of prescribe Soma when it clearly must be an effective med. Im not referring to even a regular prescribed med but when my husbands back flairs up (lumbar strain), they almost always prescribe skelactin. Oh and @Fireplaces my husbands prescription insurance does suck for some meds and others are very cheap. It depends if its a "preferred drug" on his insurance plan.

[alumni]

I can only tell you what doctors tell me.
There are many other prescription muscle relaxant medications around that are generally just as effective but without the "problematic" side effects and abuse potential that have been evidenced by Soma use.
Because of the obvious meprobamate metabolization, I'm amazed that it's taken the FDA and DEA this long to schedule it.
The fact that a drug like Miltown (meprobamate) has always been scheduled federally as C-IV and Soma was not has always been curious.

[debbrad]

I think not! My mom was popping those like crazy in the 60's. She also had valium, elivil, and pks for ulcers believe it or not. She also had at least 3 nervous breakdowns. Wonder why? I was a kid and saw all the bottles and it scared the crap out of me. She was in the hospital so much. It turns out she was manic-depressive or bi-polar. We didn't figure it out till my daughter was diagnosed and the genitic factors clicked. My mom passed away before we found out from lung cancer.

Miltown was something awfull for manic depressives or anyone else. Look up the chemistry alumni. Shocking meds back in the day, literly. Us babyboomers thought qualudes and mandrix was something, huh! We coulda died and some did.

Soma has never caused wds with me thank goodness. It just makes the muscle cramps worse without it at only 4 a day. The trouble come when tolenrence causes a patient to take way too many. Why punish those who use their medication responsibly?

Just my take as the grouchiness gets worse as I wait for the 17th,
Deb

[alumni]

I'm very aware of the medical history surrounding Miltown use and abuse if that's what you meant about "looking up the chemistry."
Regardless of how often it is prescribed currently, it has always been a C-IV scheduled med. Soma, which is basically the same substance when metabolized by the liver, has not been scheduled until now.
I found that surprising.

[debbrad]

It is scheduled here. Right now it's IV but it could go to III soon.

Sorry if I bothered you. Just thinking of Miltowns and my Mom upset me cause at that time it had amphetimines in it too at the time. It made her go one step over the line.

Sorry buddy,
Deb

[Jeremy Fisher]

Oh @alumni does not mind answering questions, do you?

But I still agree w/Deb, why punish those who would use Soma responsibly? I am here to tell you that these other muscle relaxers just don't work as well. And this it's addictive statement ... well so are PKs. Wouldn't it be better to take less PKs if I could add Soma to the mix?

Not sure if it would still do the trick but back b4 I had my neck fusion, Soma was the bomb.

Fire

[Jeremy Fisher]

@debbrad, also wanted you to know that the @'s in the headers don't work. So if folks don't answer your post's references, it's because they are not getting them.

Not trying to be witchy, just wanted you to know.

[Hugo]

Debbrad, I don't think meprobamate (Miltown, Equanil) has ever been combined with an amphetamine. Did you mean methaqualone and amphetamine? That's the only combo of that kind I can think of. An old friend used to take them - I think they were called Durophet (he called them 'black beauties').

[debbrad]

I don't know about the mentions changing in the headers? Boy, am I out of the loop! Hugo, I was very young when my Mom had a nervous breakdown but I looked at her medicine bottles and went to the library to try to find out what she was so sick with? I probably got the names mixed up on some of them.

Have you ever seen or read, "The Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood?" My Mom was the mother character. They mentioned the drug when the Mom had a breakdown. I still get that one mixed up. I loved that movie and book cause it showed some of the relationship between us.

Anyway, Soma is the best muscle relaxer for my neck and back.

Deb

[Coheed]

@alumni I was recently prescribed robaxin three times a day but was planning on taking as needed as my back pain is nit constant but it flares up from working. I currently take 70mg methadone in morning and 1.5mg Xanax daily. All cause cns depression obviously can you give any advice on adding the robaxin. Thanks

[alumni]

That's a good question to ask the doctor who prescribed the Robaxin.
It can decrease heart rate which could result in additive pulmonary depression.

[Coheed]

Believe me if the doctor knew I was on methadone she probably wouldn't give me a tylenol. I know its not the best situation but I don't want doc knowing I take methadone for obviously being labeled ad a junky and drug seeker plus I'm sure they wouldn't prescrib the Xanax either. I do not abuse drugs anymore but try convincing a doctor of that. I just thought I would ask you cuz I hear ur the person to Comr to with these type of questions. I always check out the drug interaction sites before I take anything but quite frankly anything with methadone they list as a "moderate " interaction
Thanks for the response though

[alumni]

If you're on a methadone klinik, aren't you drug tested regularly?
Every one I've ever worked with looked very closely for benzodiazepine use as a cause for administrative withdrawal.
I'm guessing you know why.
Does a doctor's script fix the test results?
Back to your question, I would personally avoid adding any kind of drug that has a potential adverse reaction of slowing heart rate to a mixture of Xanax and 70mg/day of methadone.
Also, under the heading of "for what it's worth", I believe that not informing your doctor about your methadone usage is asking for trouble health-wise. It is always better to be honest with all of your healthcare providers no matter what you might anticipate about their reactions. I'm a recovering addict/alcoholic, have always been upfront about it and have never, ever been denied appropriate medical treatment because of it.
Remember the part in rehab about "you're only as sick as your secrets"?

[Jeremy Fisher]

Back to your question, I would personally avoid adding any kind of drug that has a potential adverse reaction of slowing heart rate to a mixture of Xanax and 70mg/day of methadone.

There's your answer @Coheed. Do you have a specifically sore muscle, or group of muscles? Trust me I am the queen of non-medical solutions to muscle tightness.

Also, neither skelatin or robaxin seem to do much for me. I really need to do a personal physical trial. Mark my pain/tightness, take 1, give in a hour and revisit.

@alumni, if you had to pick your poison, would you pick Valium or Soma? Which has lower risk of addiction, etc ....

Fire