Midazolam

[mark129395]

Hey !

Yes, I have bought some Dormicum from the now defunct Midnight Moon AKA RXIOP, last September.

Before I answer your question, it might be useful that I state that I use far less medication than you do, or at least, that I use different ones. So my reaction to Dormicum would be very different from yours.

I am fortunate enough to rarely have the need for pain medication stronger than aspirin or Naproxen. Besides, I hate taking opiates because they make me feel out of control and I can't stand it. The pain has to be stronger than that fuzzy, unwelcome feeling feeling.

I'm on Paxil to treat nocturnal panic attacks. Works pretty well, even though my doctor recently had to increase the dosage. I take it in the morning.

Doesn't help any with the chronic insomnia. So I use different drugs, and I alternate : from the mildest such as herbal pills like valerian and passiflora (which I find can also help, mildly, with acute anxiety), melatonin, OTC such as Unisom, Gravol aka Dramamine (dimenhydrinate), good old ChlorTrypolon and of course, the prescription meds : Triazolam (Halcion), Zolpidem (Ambien) that I get from IOP's. I have also tried 1 to 1½ mg of Xanax to put me to sleep if I feel over-stressed, and it worked. But I have not been using Xanax more than once a month.

I have been prescribed Temazepam 15mg. I told my doctor I had to take two for it to get any effect, and still, it takes forever to take effect, and I typically fully wake up after two hours of sleep, awake yes, but completely exhausted and I have to take something else. I don't touch it anymore.

I'm disciplining myself not to take any sleeping aid more than 4 days in a row. Not easy. And I an not suggesting you do the same. You obviously suffer from anxiety far more than I do, I'm merely explaining that I have not taken enough benzos to build a tolerance.

I have also been prescribed Ativan 1mg (lorazepam) to use if panic strikes. It just isn't strong enough for me. And yet, in 20 years, I'm sure I have not used more than 50 mg in total. I still have the 20 pills I was prescribed two years ago.

So, sorry if I'm babbling, I'm just trying to state that even though I have not used that much benzos in the course of my adult life, I seem to have some inner resistance or tolerance.

I had purchased the Dormicum sort as of "just in case". I took one 15mg pill last December, as I was under so much stress that the little sleep I could get was not refreshing in any way. I would wake up with muscles so tightly wound that it was painful.

So, one night, I decided to try the Dormicum. Ooooohh! I so regretted it. It did not put me to sleep. It put me in a state of "slow motion", I don't know how else to describe it - lucid but extreme drowsiness maybe. Every limb felt extremely heavy; my head was floating in some sort of semi liquid jello. I felt the need to fight to keep in control of my body.

I got out of bed to try to walk off some the loss of control bad feeling ; I managed to stagger to the bathroom by holding on to the walls, not sure at all that I would not fall. And of course, trying so hard to stay in control started triggering a panic attack. I couldn't not take another benzo to nip it in the bud. I swallowed some herbal remedy, concentrated on the breathing and mental exercises I have been taught, and finally managed to quiet down.

Fortunately, yes, Midazolam has a short half-life. I finally managed to fall sleep about two hours later. But I did not will myself out of bed before well after noon the next day. Lost time that I could ill afford at that time.

So dear friend, I would say, even though I don't have a fraction of the knowledge of some of the members on this thread, please do be careful, and if you do decide to give Midazolam a try, my suggestion would be to skip the temazepam that night.

Take care

ST

Thanks for posting all of that Sotired as you seem to have the same problems with sleep as I do. I have also tried pretty much all of the prescribed and over the counter sleeping pills. The dormicum experience sounds like when my doctor had me try trazadone. She gave me 100mg I tried it and it did exactly the same thing you said. She tried upping the dose to 200mg but it just made it worse not to mention I was droggy for half of the next day.

[staggerwigg]

at night is the only time i can take them. I have a history though a tolerance for benz. I get the Roache 7.5s once in a while. This is one drug that is scary. i do my usual cocktail. Being very careful. Been doing this over 30 years. i'll do 2 sublingually. I can't see any one using these for rec. use except once in a while like i do..........Bromz are tight to maybe 5-6 of the 3.0s. This is me though i ain't no dr. or intelect. I gave a friend a purple football and a half 1.5 mgs , couldn't shut his ass up.Be careful........its a way to live or its a way........to die

[georgina]

@mark129395 Hello my name is georgina and I live in London, I am not too sure if the rules on this forum/site allows me to send you a private email asking you where you have ordered your midazolam/dormicum from. I would appreciate hearing from you or any other member who can answer my question and give me the relevant information. Thank you all in advance.

[crucibelle]

@georgina -- Welcome to PR Here's a link to the rules. Read them when you get a chance: Forum Rules <-- IMPORTANT!

[georgina]

@crucibelle Thank you, I must apologise as I should have read the rules before making my last post. Can you please tell me, how does one become a senior member and join the *restricted area?* Thank you for your help.

[Perromaldido]

I believe Midaz in the US is marketed as Versed and is a hospital med only. Same applies
to the country where I live and is often used as a preanesthetic in IV form. I got to know it in Hong Kong, after traveling extensively into mainland China with an extraordinaly resistant jetlag and couldn't just keep on meeting my schedule if I didn't get to sleep. Went to a Doc there and told him I needed a very strong hypnotic and asked for flunitrazepam explaining I had a marked tolerance. He denied that (bad press there also, y'know), took my BP, checked my heart and placed 6 15mgs brand dormicum in my hands. Those blew the socks off me and had me sleeping like a baby. Back home I found and Asian source and ordered. The real thing came so I could see that 1x15 at night was the best i ever had, tried to use them when needed only wyth a good degree of success. I still rate it as the best sleeping med ou there. My warnings: take them while you are already in bed, these are not Xannies to **** around with a few beers prior to go to sleeping, as you might find yourself outside and driving just cause your hypnotized mind told you so. Forget about boosters, especially meds like Ketaconazole or other antimicotic meds as they may potentiate it tenfold plus (check leaflet). Extremely effective med, it requires discipline. I would not take them over big doses of X's or Temaz. This stuff works well enough alone. YMMV, but I don't think much-

[synthetikal]

The 15mg flormidal from EU is bomb.com, by far the best midaz ive had, tried about 3 or 4 other brands and they were either totally worthless or about a 1/3th as strong as the flormidal (give or take a few % points).

[tinyfish]

It is a wonderful drug for sleep but it doesn't do anything for my anxiety im a really hyper person though but for sleep it does wonders

[bluesbros]

Does the quality of Midazolam differ between roche and flormidal

[tinyfish]

I would think the roche brand is better to me it's name brand and the other is generic but i don't think it would have a great difference between them

[iamslh32]

I personally will stay away from this medication because it is too short lived and causes too much amnesia. anything that tends to cause amnesia in general just isn't worth it for me. There are other benzos that do the trick w/o the excessive amnesia side effects.

[Perromaldido]

I personally will stay away from this medication because it is too short lived and causes too much amnesia. anything that tends to cause amnesia in general just isn't worth it for me. There are other benzos that do the trick w/o the excessive amnesia side effects.

That's exactly the reason why it should be taken while in bed already.

[andyli]

Doesn't sound like a benzo or a effective way of treating any condition, since you can't use it for long term.

I'm going to stay away from this one, since I don't have any problems falling asleep without meds.

[Perromaldido]

Oh, for that matter there is not a single benzo which -according to the manufacturer's info - may be used for long term, and they make it very clear. The fact that there are millions benzo addicts prove long term is extremely common.

[DepressedAlone]

Recently had multiple ml's of Midazolam during a dental procedure.

Made me kinda drowsy, but I remembered most of it and time didnt seen to go by that fast.

[Perromaldido]

Recently had multiple ml's of Midazolam during a dental procedure. Made me kinda drowsy, but I remembered most of it and time didnt seen to go by that fast.

Are you from the US? I thought I knew midazolam is called ''Versed'' there and it only comes in vials. Do you mean you had it injected IM or IV during that procedure? That would be simply amazing from my perspective-----

[DepressedAlone]

Was with IV over the course of a couple hours. and no, not in the US.

[Perromaldido]

Well wherever you are from, here they would give me a 500/30 and kick in the arse. I bet trying to talk them into 10 millies Diaz IM would turn into a disaster. No wonders when I used to have to go through stuff like that I would largely help myself with my own thingies in the waiting room---lol