MyScriptsRx (formerly myscriptscod.com)

[Crazy Little One]

He/She is awesome, Id suggest the same Many more great people with info on NROP's

Ive been around the NROP part for a longgggggggggggggggggggg time & know some , quite simple but this forum is awesome with info, sorta like home work , glad Im here with you all

[edyth]

So, was everybody who had been left hanging in 'customer service limbo' for so long able to make other arrangements?

yes

i' d placed an order a few days ago at goodcentsrx & couldn't figure out why it was "stuck." messaged them to cancel. found what i need for about $15.00 less somewhere else -- COD, too

[dfitz]

@1hotmama~

That article is interesting....but it's referring to narcotics that the surepharmacy affiliates didn't offer. They only offered what was legally allowed.

Now....could it just so happen that they used this particular pharmacy so they need to find another B&M one? Because that LLC group.....I can't imagine is related to them...due to them not offering narcotics. And this bust seems to have been about narcotics. When you refer to the matching phone number....are you thinking that this is the pharmacy that surepharmacy and affiliates used? Or do you think that the guys arrested were the owners of the surepharmacy affiliates too? I'm tending to think it was just the pharmacy involved....just my gut.....and that whoever does own/run the surepharmacy sites are gonna have to find a alternate B&M pharmacy....which I'm sure isn't all that easy.....and many NROP's share pharmacies.

I'm curious what others think here. There are a few connections....the LA area (meaning Louisiana), etc.....but the "narcotics" makes me doubtful.
But who knows? What do others here think? Do you think that this LLC company was linked to surepharmacy and affiliates or do you think they just lost their pharmacy and are going to have to find an alternative one?

EDIT @edyth~
Are you referring to the cadence sites? Like rxdrugmd? Because goodcents (and affiliates) had about the lowest prices (for trams anyway). Did you use an NROP that allows COD that's already been mentioned on this thread?

.....oh, and I'm a gal. Not young...as in my sons are grown and married (no grands yet...except for those of the pet-species)....but yeah, I'm female. I just love to do research, do puzzles and figure out the ins and outs of everything and anything for some reason. Driven to find out how things work/operate. I'm hoping I can learn a lot about the IOP's here and in the senior section......just to learn, even though it's not likely I'd ever use them....unless all the NROP's get shut down or it becomes illegal for them to sell trams.
And actually......that COULD happen.....so there is a self-interest/being proactive aspect too....now that I think about it.
But anything I come across...even if it's of no use to me at the time....I'll go and learn about it and how it works. I grew up in the 50's and 60's (then college in the 70's) and I can tell you that the internet is just fascinating and a dream come true for me. Back then I'd have never imagined having so much info at my fingertips. It's fantastic. For young folks here....you probably take all this technology somewhat for granted. But for those of us from a prior generation....it's literally magic.

[Synergistic]

@harddkyss
Yeah, she is back and I gotta say she is one of the nicest of these OP's I've ever dealt with. I'd never used them and was a little put off with the USPS route, and had a couple of questions and she responded very promptly. Package was ordered on wednesday, received today (sat) - used priority free shipping and living in a small town I figured 3 days not 2. Never used USPS cod before but with their level of service, I'll def order from them in the future. 180 trams for 103.75 shipped isn't bad at all IMO, especially since surepharmacy did a toilet dive.

Def recommend rxdrugmd if you guys need an alternative.

[1hotmamma]

@ dfitz, I think it was just the b&m pharm used because that was the phone # I matched to an old bottle. I think narcotics was their focus, but this part caught my attention: "From December 2006 through September 2011, more than 5,000 individual transactions were conducted through the Web Marketing accounts, totaling over $16 million in transactions. Over $6 million was deposited into the accounts in the form of CODs (cash on delivery) or merchant accounts from internet drug sales. Over 31,500 COD instruments from individuals, totaling over $4 million, were deposited over the period. Each COD represents an individual purchase of legend or controlled drugs.
It is believed that approximately 16,000 more individual internet drug sales were made using various merchant accounts.".

I'm inclined to think they just used this pharmacy to fulfill the orders, it's happened before, but I could be wrong.

[dfitz]

@Synergistic~

I'm having a bit of difficulty trying to figure out who you're replying to on this particular thread....but I only went back and reviewed page 10 and didn't see that particular poster there.......but are you referring to rxdrugmd/cadence and a woman with the first initial J.?

I really like the cadence affiliates and really like J. She's very helpful and will email you replies to questions quickly. And they are fairly prompt when it comes to ordering. Perhaps not as speedy as the surepharmacy guys were but the prices for cadence are very good.

And their pharmacy is in NY, I believe? So for anyone who lives not all that far from NY......you'd likely receive it very quickly by priority mail.

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@ dfitz, I think it was just the b&m pharm used because that was the phone # I matched to an old bottle. I think narcotics was their focus, but this part caught my attention: "From December 2006 through September 2011, more than 5,000 individual transactions were conducted through the Web Marketing accounts, totaling over $16 million in transactions. Over $6 million was deposited into the accounts in the form of CODs (cash on delivery) or merchant accounts from internet drug sales. Over 31,500 COD instruments from individuals, totaling over $4 million, were deposited over the period. Each COD represents an individual purchase of legend or controlled drugs.
It is believed that approximately 16,000 more individual internet drug sales were made using various merchant accounts.".

I'm inclined to think they just used this pharmacy to fulfill the orders, it's happened before, but I could be wrong.

Thanks so much @1hotmamma~
I appreciate all the info anyone can find as possible explanations for this whole surepharmacy falling off the radar and disappearing act that happened over the past 2 weeks.

In what you quoted.....did it sound to you like they were referring to narcotics? What did they mean by "controlled substances" do you think? That term can be applied to both anything you need to get a prescription for/not sold OTC....and also to the scheduled narcotics, benzos, etc......NOT meds that NROP's are supposed to and generally offer. Certainly all the legitimate NROP's only offer from the list of what is legal for them.

For instance....if an NROP site says it's still shipping soma....that would be a HUGE red flag.

I don't know.....I'm seeing some possible connections....but then I can't figure out why surepharmacy affiliates would be dealing with scheduled narcotics (aside from trams and fioricet....which is technically a barbital).

I'm REALLY curious to know:
1. What did they mean by "controlled substances"?
2. What had they shipped in all these COD orders? Was it scheduled narcotics they should not have been dealing with.....or were any of the allowed meds (trams, fioricet, etc.) mixed in there? Were they only shipping narcotics COD or were the legally allowed ones also involved?

As it's printed....it's a bit too vague for me to make a good connection.....in terms of whether this LLC outfit was the same one running the surepharmacy operations. You've totally convinced me it was the same B&M pharmacy.........but was it ONLY the pharmacy and they only need to find an alternative? OR....are they in big trouble and will be gone for a LONG time?

EDIT: @Synergistic~

Ahh....I found the post you were responding to. Sorry about that
I never came across a Micky....but there is a very nice woman from the cadence/Troy/rxdrugmd operation....whose first initial is J.
They had been accepting COD.....but then for a few months they would only accept e-checks and ach (or something like that....I don't even know what it meant)......and finally, they began accepting COD again.
They had said it was due to people paying COD but not having the $ to back it up (I'm paraphrasing here) but that made absolutely no sense to me because as far as I know, money orders MUST be paid for with cash.....and it doesn't matter what you have in your bank acct....once you purchase an actual money order, it IS cash.

So....I have no idea what went on there but they are back to accepting COD. I was leery about the e-check thing....so just removed them from my back-up list.....but then checked again one day....months later....and they were taking COD again....so put them back on the list.

[edyth]

@edyth~
Are you referring to the cadence sites? Like rxdrugmd? Because goodcents (and affiliates) had about the lowest prices (for trams anyway). Did you use an NROP that allows COD that's already been mentioned on this thread?

hi there. i used processrx. i think it was mentioned here. some of those others don't send to where i am.

[Crazy Little One]

Processrx is great , there are some places they dont deliver to not alot but a few, I guess it depends on what your ordering.
I like them , just dont know much about their refill times not that I need a refill but would be nice to know in the future when I refill again from them.

All in all they are kind & a great company

[harddkyss]

@dfitz
It was me and it's actually page 9 (Post move fast here geez!!) 2 of the girls are Mickey and Jessica, definitely recommend them from my past experiences.
Seems all the others Goodcents,Sure,etc are gone, Domain is set to expire in 8 Day's so who knows, nice to have backup's.

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Hey this is VERY Important!! I just want to give everyone a heads up as this has happened before, if this particular affiliate let's these domains expire and they go up for sale they almost immediately get snapped up from people in china,UK,Russia,etc with the intent of defrauding people because everyone thinks "Oh look they're back, and what do 'ya know they accept Visa Now" next thing you know you are missing hundred's of dollars from your account, so PLEASE tread CAREFULLY. This has happened before to other ones that vanished, only to come back and screw peeps out of a lot of money same domain name, same template same everything and it looks really legit.

[Starscream_]

They could be calling tramadol a scheduled drug because it is in some locations; some of these agencies use buzzwords. Yes, it's not scheduled everywhere, but if they had shipped someplace where it is...even if it was not when ordered...it is still technically true that they shipped "scheduled medication".

Or they could be referring to the likely large number of previous Soma sales?

[dfitz]

@dfitz Hey this is VERY Important!! I just want to give everyone a heads up as this has happened before, if this particular affiliate let's these domains expire and they go up for sale they almost immediately get snapped up from people in china,UK,Russia,etc with the intent of defrauding people because everyone thinks "Oh look they're back, and what do 'ya know they accept Visa Now" next thing you know you are missing hundred's of dollars from your account, so PLEASE tread CAREFULLY. This has happened before to other ones that vanished, only to come back and screw peeps out of a lot of money same domain name, same template same everything and it looks really legit.

@harddkyss~

Thanks for the info. I did know about and experienced for myself the phone calls coming from outside the US, pretending to be an NROP and telling me it was time to reorder. Usually I just hung up on them or didn't even pick-up but a few times, I started grilling the guy, because he'd called to notify me it was time for a refill when I'd just had it refilled. And it was funny...he was really scrambling. I said "look at your records! I'm sure you have them right there! If you're xyz pharmacy or website you would have the records and you would know that I just refilled!" He had said he was from a site that I had used a few times.

I'm guessing these outside the US scammers just buy lists of names somehow....or else they hack info? But if they could hack that info, wouldn't they have known I'd just reordered?

But I'd not heard of this taking over an expired website and domain name by scammers. I'll tell ya, I've been following these 419 scam for years. I worked in archives years ago and some guy wanted an article about this....as he'd been ripped-off with an advanced fee fraud scam. This was back when people weren't aware of these rampant scams....and was the first time I'd heard about it....and since then have continued to read up on it on the net. And there are still WAY too many people not aware of them. And it will be the only way to stop them.....as LE does nothing to them in their own countries and they are in the internet cafes all day running their scams.

And one big thing I've learned is that these guys have figured out EVERY angle you could possibly scam someone with....so what you warned of makes total sense to me. If someone can be scammed with anything, those guys have already figured it out. There's no scam out there that they're not using.

OK.....let's say some imposters did take over the site. Would they have bought the site? Would you expect them to have bought it for only a short amount of time? Would that be one big red flag to look for? What other things would you look for to make sure it's legitimate and and that the actual surepharmacy guys were back in business? Especially since nobody seems to have ever gotten any responses back when they tried to contact anyone on those sites. What would be the big red flags you'd want to look for?
Hehe.....if they suddenly began bombarding you with phone calls...would that be the big red flag?

[harddkyss]

@dfitz
They're getting smarter by the day, I can give a quick list (Stuff I've actually seen and was proved to be a fraud) of the most common mistakes they make, it kinda goes like this, the scammers belong to a forum,blog,etc that auctions off Domains as soon as they are released to the wild,(They can spin a site and be back online in 30 minutes or less with DNS change,etc!!)but most of them get alerts and even know ahead of time when a certain domain will be released , it's all perfectly legal but what isn't is the intent of buying it to defraud people out of money,I wish I could give you a screen shot or website of the forums/sites that deals with this fraudulent "Stuff" (Mostly foreign Languages) but I don't want to give any "Naughty" peeps that advantage as I might be below.

Most common I've seen:

1.if it's too good to be true, it probably is.
2.They use to be COD and now suddenly they accept Visa, WU only (Unless you ate paint chips as a kid or were banged on the head, no scammers that I've seen will ever use COD as a method of payment.
3. Improper Grammar/Misspellings, misplaced comma's and decimals ie: $89,99.
4. Mismatched font's and size, they're default font is different then ours, you'll know, it will just look out of place.
5.Selling Controlled substance's when they didn't use to ie: Soma,etc
6. Don't bother with the "https" that's useless, as certificates are stolen/hijacked everyday.
7. Dead links/funny error messages.
8. Most important, gut instinct!!.

as many nice and intelligent people as they are in here just ask them to look and see what they think.
There is never going to be a sure fire way to tell 100% sure if it is going to come back a fraudulent site or not, and I'm in no way implying that this is what is going to happen, just something I seen happen a few months ago (Sadly) and I was going to comment about it but I forgot and this site being down reminded me of it, so this is just something I want everyone to keep in the back of your minds that it's out there and can happen.
Sometimes the owner of the site will sell it to someone else as sorta a package deal with all the credentials, Customers info,etc. I've seen a undercover video on this actually happening.

[dfitz]

@harddkyss~

Boy, thanks for telling me about that.
I'm curious.....you're saying that they buy the sites/domains mainly for phishing info? Especially credit card numbers? Or to sell fake meds?
Do they also buy their customer list/data base or just the template and domain name?

Also....I always assumed that when one of the NROP's stopped accepting visa, for instance, it was either because they lost their privileges or some other reason that was the CC company's decision....not the decision of the NROP's (and I'm talking legitimate NROP's....not something illegal and bogus)
So.....if surepharmacy and affiliates could no longer take visa (because they used to years ago but then lost their privileges for some reason)....and could only accept COD.....how would a scammer get back the CC/visa privileges?

Or do they just steal CC #'s and grab the $ and run before the CC company finds out they are not an approved vendor? How does that work? How does a scammer steal someone's money using their credit card if they don't have CC privileges?

What would something like this have as it's goal? Phishing a bunch of personal info fast....or just grabbing money fast and then shutting down the bogus site they bought?

Of course the scammers are operating illegally....but if a legitimate US affiliate-owner were to sell his database of customers to a scammer...or to anyone....wouldn't that be breaking HIPAA regulations and be illegal? Wouldn't that not be allowed or something the person could get into legal trouble over?

Thanks so much again. Will be interesting to see what happens with the surepharmacy situation.

ADDED: Would you be expecting a scammer to purchase the domain for only a very short amount of time? As compared to the length of time legitimate NROP's would purchase?

[stmeantime]

C.O.D. is the way to go. Cash on delivery. Imagine how many people would have been spared getting ripped off if all pharmacies would deliver cod.

[Synergistic]

@dfitz - not a problem :P


I remember when surepharmacy disappeared, I received one of those postcards some of you have gotten as well, saying they've changes to goodcentsrx. Hopefully they'll give us some kind of heads up again. I'd sure hate to lose them for good, I've used their affiliates for at least 3 years now. Living in AR it's hard to find OP's that do cod. But you guys are so informative and I appreciate all the help!

[crucibelle]

I am mostly a lurker, but I think I found some info about myscripts. My dad lives in NOLA and told me there was a raid on the news for a pharmacy shipping online meds. I looked up the phone # on an old script and it matched the place. Here is an article (with pictures) if anyone is interested. I think it's safe to say anyone hoping they show up might be out of luck for now. Hope I helped a little.
News from DEA, Domestic Field Divisions, New Orleans News Releases, 05/07/12

Ok, I just read this article and this is either not a pharmacy that myscriptsrx, goodcentsrx, etc. use OR this pharmacy was a provider for additional site(s). The reason being, they were obviously shipping hydro, xanax, and other scheduled meds. The surepharmacy group does NOT sell these types of drugs... only unscheduled meds. Also, the article mentioned raids of associated pharmacies in Seattle, but there was no mention of the one in Salisbury.

I'm not sure If I should be posting this info, so if anyone thinks I shouldn't, let me know and I'll edit my post. My last order from myscriptsrx was back in Feb. I still have the bottle. The bottle has an address in Salisbury on it. I googled the address & it's a pharmacy. This place is only a 30 minute drive away from me. Makes me wonder if I should ride by and check it out.. lol! I also have the phone # for this particular pharmacy, but I doubt they'd spill any info on what is going on.

ETA: Incidentally, I also googled the Dr.'s name on the bottle but could find no info on him.

[harddkyss]

@dfitz
You see they're main objective is to Mimic the site as it was before and obtain any credit card info they can (Even phone numbers, Google "Bill Cramming") anyone can download a websites public accessible files throw up a simple input box form to enter CC Number CCV Code etc, I see this all the time, they don't need a Payment processor remember they are working off of previous trust and clientele the website had, the scammers have your info they can do what they like.
As far as length of time a legitimate OP, Wow I've seen 1 year to 6 years, I wouldn't use that as an indicator of a fraudulent site.
This trend seems to really be blowing up recently as the economy falters and business's close, domains go up for sale and people get screwed and as far as USPS tracking numbers go anyone can turn out one it's super easy, I build Embedded Microcontroller prototype boards and send them all over and it's super simple to make a shipping label and throw up a tracking number, it's just a matter of does it get picked up or not.
It's a whole nother world on the dark side, it's sad, so many people loose their money to them, that's why Visa is really cracking down, wish I could reach everyone but I can't.

[1hotmamma]

Ok, I just read this article and this is either not a pharmacy that myscriptsrx, goodcentsrx, etc. use OR this pharmacy was a provider for additional site(s). The reason being, they were obviously shipping hydro, xanax, and other scheduled meds. The surepharmacy group does NOT sell these types of drugs... only unscheduled meds. Also, the article mentioned raids of associated pharmacies in Seattle, but there was no mention of the one in Salisbury.

I'm pretty sure they use a few different pharmacies, & it probably depends on your area, what the medication is & where the dr who writes the script is located. That is my understanding & has been my experience through the years. I'm nowhere near seattle, or MD. Sounds like they were basically into a whole mess of stuff, selling Narcs out of their car, revoked licenses etc.

[crucibelle]

I'm pretty sure they use a few different pharmacies, & it probably depends on your area, what the medication is & where the dr who writes the script is located. That is my understanding & has been my experience through the years. I'm nowhere near seattle, or MD. Sounds like they were basically into a whole mess of stuff, selling Narcs out of their car, revoked licenses etc.

@1hotmamma -- I forgot to thank you for posting that article, so... thank you. Very informative, and I probably would have never come across it, myself. Perhaps the pharmacy in MD wasn't doing the scheduled drug thing... who knows.

[dfitz]

@harddkyss~

Thanks so much.
I had been on a different forum here (up a little higher on the main board) and there was a thread about visa cracking down. Did you see that thread? I am not tech savvy but love to learn about it. Grew up in a whole different generation.

But I'd come across various posts over about the past year about people having the same problem using their visas for various NROP's. And these would be NROP's they'd used before and visa cards they'd used before....and their order status would list as "queued" and then never move forward. And they'd call the customer service and the person they'd talk to didn't seem to have any idea. They'd be told the order was just waiting in line or they didn't have an order with that number and all sorts of other....well, what sounded like excuses for lack of info. And I just assumed these must be some sort of flukes.
But then I ran across the same story multiple times and some time later, came across the thread here....and now I'm wondering if the sudden halt in progression came from the visa company end. And the customer service people were not aware of the crackdown? Could that be possible?

I'm also not knowledgeable about how credit cards are processed. In fact, I've never had an actual credit card....only a debit card....so I don't know if it's possible that the card could somehow get refused and the customer service person of the NROP not be aware of it....and not be able to see that the order was ever placed (?).

Years ago, when HSN shipped to my state AND took visa cards....I used to use them.....and then suddenly, mysterious purchases were made from a few other countries.....so I shut down the card and only used COD....because it HAD to have been related....it was the only thing I'd bought on the internet at the time. And back then, my visa always went through....but I'm pretty sure that had I not had the $ in the bank the order would have been denied/refused. But then, this was a debit card (I have a new one now....but won't use it for this purpose ever since that happened to me). Not really sure what would happen if it was an actual credit card. In fact....are all visas debit cards? And it has to be mastercard and Amex to be an actual credit card....where you're extended significant amounts of credit so you can spend money you don't have yet (ie: borrow $)?
(can you tell I'm from another generation? The "never get into debt!" generation? )

I do a lot of reading on the internet about the 419 scams, particularly romance scams.....and have learned that MG and WU have been trying to do what they can to warn people and to stop them from sending money to scammers (esp. in West Africa and to the former Soviet Union)...but that they can't outright refuse to allow someone to send their $ to those areas of the world and that many have asked dating sites (infested with scammers) why they don't block ip addresses from those areas of the world.....but they say they can't discriminate. In advanced fee fraud, many have questioned why the bank doesn't take the hit because they allowed a bad check to go through initially and show as $ in their acct. and then they lose huge sums of $ thinking the check was legitimate.....but the banks, apparently, have to make the $ available within a certain time-frame and people don't realize that just because the $ shows up in the acct. the next day, doesn't mean it was a good/valid check. Heck....I didn't even know that. I thought "the check has to clear" meant they'd made sure it was good.....not that they'd just done the paperwork...and that it would take days to actually learn if it had been good or not. I still don't totally understand this...........but logic would tell me that all these financial entities HAVE to be figuring out ways to combat and to crack down on the massive fraud and scams happening, right?

They have these phishing scams where they pretend to be Amazon, or your bank, or paypal, or yahoo.....and email for your info....saying they need to update your records. And boy, do many of them look legit! I even forwarded one to my son because I wasn't sure but eventually got savvy when it came to them.
Thanks again so much for the info. I love to pick the brains of those who know about things or how to do things I can't and who can explain things I can't.

ADDED: You know, the surepharmacy affiliates have/had been around for a pretty long time compared to the others. And had kept the same site names....as opposed to say, cartadmin, who has different site names every year AND has a million of them....constantly changing names. Surepharmacy kept the same site names and as far as I know....there were only the 4 sites....which had been around forever. That was another thing I couldn't quite figure out. Totaltrustmeds is similar....has been around for a really long time....has only a small # of affiliate sites (they're wellingtonrx sites) and have been around for ages. Cartadmin has been around for ages but their millions of affiliate sites are constantly changing names.
You sound like you might have some knowledge about this? And could explain it?

@crucibelle~

Boy...I've not been sure what to think. On the one hand, there is NO match in terms of the meds they were selling....just like you said. It sounds like something totally different from what NROP's sell and how they operate.
And then there's the whole Salisbury pharmacy connection....totally non-related.
But....then there's just just the sheer coincidence of the events happening almost at the exact same time....plus there's the same phone message deal but that could be that they just use the same answering service or that it's a message used by many. But the timing is so coincidental. And for some reason, I'm wanting to say that there was a time when they might have used a different pharmacy....and it might have been in the Louisiana area...but not totally sure and I could be mixed up about this.

And what's really weird is that after having seen no movement on any of their affiliate sites all week long......they suddenly came to life on a Saturday, of all days, and started shipping orders (or so they claimed on the order status pages of their sites)...even providing tracking #'s and sending emails with the tracking #. I have NEVER seen an NROP make the slightest movement on a week-end and that totally threw me. I'd just never seen anything like it and still don't know what to make of it. I mean, there are certain events you can speculate on....but this particular just totally stumped me. Could they have possibly been scrambling before the bust?
But then there are so many things that are NOT connections in any way.

I can't wait to find out what possibly happened. And if they come back.

ADDED: I'm up so early because I had to take the dog out.